Moon Reaper

[Jackie]

If you look at things that way, nothing really makes a difference anymore. There is no need to move forward, as moving forward only drives us further to the "inevitable end" that you put before us. I personally would not think of such an inevitable end,

Did you not read a thing I typed? Who the fuck is saying "nothing matters".

Evolution could not occur without our drive to continue. I am positive if we collectively grow the fuck up, we can extend our ride. But accepting our finite existence as individuals, much less a species, is hardly pessimistic.

The opposite is the case. Religion teaches you to put up a wall and ignore the competition of ideas that do foster progress. Name me one point in history where some nation or group claims to have it right and nothing changed for the better after that, despite the future proving them wrong.

NO, we are better off as a species accepting our finite nature, as individuals and as a collective future.

There is a reason to move forward, because our lives are finite.

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But that will never change our species finite existence.

If you look at things that way, nothing really makes a difference anymore. There is no need to move forward, as moving forward only drives us further to the "inevitable end" that you put before us. I personally would not think of such an inevitable end, as I believe that there is nothing inevitable for someone or a multitude of people who have the will to go through a calamity. Accepting defeat before fighting a war is not what an army is for.

If we are being selfish, and most are, it is generational, and far to often politics and religion falsely lay claim to immortality even for future generations, and the effort of such futility was recognized, even before I was born in MacBeth act 5 scene 5.

Well, I don't know why you're against selfishness if you already claim that our ride is finite. Since the ride is finite, let people believe in whatever ideologies or faiths that make their lives a bit more bearable, let them feel happy about themselves, and let them find solace in the concept of life after death, or let them find solace in this life with the many finite pleasures of the world, let us go wild, and leave nothing behind. After all, what purpose does it serve to think of the next generation which could theoretically be the last one, perhaps? I think that with such a life philosophy, the only thing that one could do is to be either so selfish to disregard anything in the world or so selfless to commit suicide.

Or, maybe we should just put ourselves out of our misery, and spare any future generations from experiencing the final stages of this "finite ride" that you mentioned, which is, I believe, some kind of a doomsday scenario that is to strike mankind in some near or far future.

I mean, you probably are an advocate of euthanasia, and if we equate mankind to a single human being that suffers from terminal cancer, maybe it's best not to further try to make futile repairs and life extention procedures to keep a suffering patient like mankind live any longer.


Like, what is this acceptace, that you speak of is going to bring to us?People of the current world religions too, speak of this acceptance of a "finite existence", at least in worldly terms. But I believe that their concept of an afterlife makes them more at peace with themselves, at least they have something to look forward to. What do you have but the cold void, and you do not even have the solace of leaving a legacy behind you, for that legacy means nothing in the finiteness of our existence. Do not mind me for saying that you sound to me as a lonely, troubled person, friend.

I've heard that argument countless times and I agree and disagree with it. If someone claiming to be a Mormon or Catholic or Muslim prevents them from blowing shit up or committing crime, I most certainly support their right to hold that delusion, much like I wont kill a Cowboy fan if they Beat my Redskins.

But I totally disagree that any claim on any subject religious or not, should hold a taboo status. The only right a claim has is the right to make the claim. After that only a dictator would expect opposition to not say boo. If making claims, on any subject is important, then equally important is the ability of outsiders and insiders to kick the tires. Religion and politics are the biggest childish brats to the idea of questioning.

You type on this computer because someone questioned. We no longer in the west have slavery and women can vote because of questioning. What held that back and needlessly so? RELIGION!