Existence and Infinity (Warning: major rambling)

[Napoléon]

Since I'm still too lazy to write out that Cantor thing...
Zeno's paradoxes anyone? Projective geometry? Ordinals?
God, math has made me lazy about arguing things "[jargon jargon] and the rest follows trivially." But maybe that's just because this thread doesn't have a clear formulation of/approach to infinity that my argument would have to be reducible to (esp. since the lack of a clear approach is the central issue of the thread anyway).

At least you folks haven't started bickering over "potential infinity" versus "actual infinity" yet.

Sorry my thread doesn't conform with your standards

Like I said before, I don't normally do philosophy, mainly because of the amount of shit it entails and that it actually gets you nowhere.

If we aren't going to get anywhere anyway, what does it matter if the thread doesn't really have a clear approach. What's wrong with simple discussion? All we're really doing is brainstorming our different ideas on what existence might or might not entail, this thread wasn't designed for a particular 'approach'. Hell, what makes your approach or his approach or her approach any better than anyone else's? This is philosophy for Stevie's sake, we all just stabbing in the dark no matter what approach we take.

I'm content doing it my way, seems far more interesting to me when talking about this sort of thing with real terms. It's when philosophy starts introducing these labels that I rapidly lose interest.

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Then would you say timeless existence is possible?

I find it highly dependant on how you define time.

Maybe you'd like to take a stab at it? And I'll give you an answer based on the definition you come up with