Op/ED g/God, broken concept

[Brian37]

Why do you think we are atheists? Because unlike you we have read the bible WITHOUT magic daddy beer goggles on....

Well I hate to break the news to you but there have been theists (and atheists) around for longer than the bible. Abraham didnt have a bible to read and so the beer goggles thing doesnt apply to him.

Like I said in reply to your question...If the first people who postulated an invisible friend were right, then why are you not worshiping their god? I agree with your premise about the first people.

I am worshipping their God. And they didnt have a bible.

No libraries in the Garden of Eden.

Still looking at my fingertip while I am pointing at the moon.

I dont give one rats ass if you want to call your god Farfromtruthen, Marduke, Thor, or Pink Unicorn. I don't even care if you want to claim they are all the same.

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN OR EVER WILL BE ANY SUCH THING AS A NON MATERIAL THINKING BEING!

"God" is nothing but an argument from ignorance and nothing more than you projecting your own wishes on the world around you.

Volcanos were never gods despite people beliving it. The sun was never a god despite people beliving it, and your pet invisible friend claim is no fucking different. You are merely one human in human history who has fallen for their own ignorance.

Unfortunately for humanity this gap filling is a social norm and one people like me have to constantly battle needlessly when the world has bigger problems to face such as polution, famine, bigotry and violence.

I cant stop you from believing, but you are not going to sell your superstition her without being questioned.

Now, I will give you the same challenge I would give any Muslim, Hindu, Jew or whatever. Go take your god theory and get it emperically proven and get a patent on it, and win a Nobel Prize in science proving your god theory, then we can talk. I'm sure you will have as much luck as everyone else now and in history has had.

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Some could see atheism as wish fulfillment if one wanted to as well.

Even though atheism simply means without belief in god.?

Likewise, simply, from the fact of suffering it doesn't seem to follow that there is no God

Suffering doesn't follow that there is no god, true. But if it's shown/proven that the universe can come into existence without a god (which does have support), then that would follow that a god was never required and so god's very existence would be pointless. It wouldn't disprove god, just prove that he/it isn't necessary.

And that rat bastard Hawkins went and pointed out this inconvient reality. How dare he!