(September 11, 2012 at 8:32 pm)System of Solace Wrote: Was Japan about to surrender? Really?
Russia declared war on Japan the day before the first bomb was dropped. Look it up, if you don't believe me. Not even a kamikaze pilot would be nuts enough to think it could take Russia and the United States. Remember, the European part of the war was already over. Japan was fucked. China hated Japan, thanks to their recent indiscretions. Russia was turning its eyes to Japan like fucking Sauron on his fucking period and the United States was fast making it possible to attack the mainland, which had been a major strategic problem since the start of the Pacific conflict.
Quote:I would like to refer to my point in the first post. The nuclear weapons caused less bloodshed and destruction than a fullscale invasion would have (which was planned and soon going to be launched but was nullified due to the nuke's completion).
Prove it.
Quote:Russia was simply interested in Japan's territories in mainland Asia, pushing on further would have served to purpose for them.
They declared war on Japan, which had fast fading resources, thanks to the U.S. refusal to do trade with them unless they pulled out of China, which led to the attack on Pearl Harbor. Their greatest ally was defeated and they had absolutely no means of sustaining their country with goods from elsewhere. Do you think Japan has all of the natural resources needed for war? Russia and the U.S. could have easily put up a naval blockade, particularly if China cooperated. The only strategy problem they had was fuel.
Quote:And Stalin would have been very reluctant to help the US again-after all, he only got help from us because his country was on the verge of collapse, and he obviously showed no gratitude for that help when you consider the Cold war.
What the fuck are you talking about? Help the U.S.? Germany declared war on Russia before Pearl Harbor even happened, so well before the United States entered the war. The Cold War had everything to do with the aftermath of World War II and who would take the bulk of power. It had fuckall to do with what happened before or even during the war, unless you count the nuclear arms race.