(September 11, 2012 at 8:48 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:(September 11, 2012 at 8:42 pm)System of Solace Wrote: Of course. He accused me of supporting US nuking 100%. Which was a total misrepresentation of my argument.
I'm confused. If you're not 100 percent behind it, what percentage are you then? And how exactly would your less-than-100 percent position be different compared to being 100 percent for nuking? What would you have done differently?
I meant that any other option that would have guaranteed Japanese surrender with less bloodshed would have been better. But that is obvious.
Quote:A United States surrender to Japan only would not have meant a Japanese occupation. You forget their must be terms to surrender. You can surrender and essentially have it mean, "Yeah, let's just go back to our own business and stop killing each other." Yes, I do mean it. I would rather see my country surrender with good terms than nuke people.
This needs to be visited.
I do agree. But do you think a country hungry for revenge would have taken that? They would have rebelled if such a thing happened. They were hungry for revenge for Pearl harbor and for dragging the US into WW2.
My point is, you have a great point. That was a better idea. And it would been nice if it was so apparently necessary to become involved in WW2 (although it is arguable if Britain would have succeeded on the western front with just our supplies and weaponry. They did not have a great amount of manpower like Russia.). But, it was just not possible at the time. And that's what we have to argue. Not what was right or wrong then or now, but what was possible at the time and still more moral than the other decisions.
The true beauty of a self-inquiring sentient universe is lost on those who elect to walk the intellectually vacuous path of comfortable paranoid fantasies.