RE: The Nuking of Japan
September 11, 2012 at 9:24 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2012 at 9:30 pm by Creed of Heresy.)
Well if we're going to bring up pictures.
![[Image: jap11.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.darkworks.org%2Fjap11.jpg)
![[Image: Chinese_civilians_to_be_buried_alive.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F6%2F67%2FChinese_civilians_to_be_buried_alive.jpg)
<-- Chinese civilians (hey, I see a child in the lower right, there...) about to be buried alive by Japanese soldiers
![[Image: Chinese_killed_by_Japanese_Army_in_a_dit...suchow.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F8%2F8d%2FChinese_killed_by_Japanese_Army_in_a_ditch%252C_Hsuchow.jpg)
![[Image: Contest_To_Cut_Down_100_People.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F5%2F59%2FContest_To_Cut_Down_100_People.jpg)
"A Japanese newspaper report of the Contest To Cut Down 100 People.
This news was originally reported by the Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shimbun in December 13, 1937. Both soldiers were extradited to China after the war, tried for their actions in Chinese court, and were executed on January 28, 1948."
![[Image: Japanese_shooting_blindfolded_Sikh_prisoners.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fd%2Fd5%2FJapanese_shooting_blindfolded_Sikh_prisoners.jpg)
Japanese soldiers shooting at blindfolded and cuffed Sikh prisoners.
You don't like the images? Well, you're the one saying you'd like to go about your business with a nation doing THAT daily over the course of YEARS rather than do a fraction of that kind of murder twice over the course of less than week. PLEASE revoke that sentiment that you would have preferred our surrender to them, because you're essentially saying you'd like us to be guilty of standing by and doing nothing. I understand the...well, the idea, I suppose, that you'd have wanted us to the bigger men. But there's better ways of saying it, alright?
Ultimately, Japan surrendered not in any part to themselves but actually to US capitulation. They refused to surrender due to FOUR terms that they refused to let be changed, and they only surrendered when the United States and the Six basically caved in because we didn't WANT to exterminate or enslave them; we wanted to just end the damn war [that last bit there is for you, MysticKnight].
Chief among them that they refused to let war crime trials be run against them and they refused to let the Emperor be disempowered [despite the fact all roads of horror led to him]. It is these two terms primarily that we, the ones with the obvious advantage and the capacity to annihilate actually went and BUCKLED on. And it's worth noting that a coup d'état was actually staged by the military to try to PREVENT THE SURRENDER. [AGAIN, MYSTIC KNIGHT. AGAIN. For you.]
Again. I am not arguing against the horror of the bombs. And I will always agree that they were immoral, horrible actions. But I also will not back down on this point: They were necessary. Necessity is a cruel thing to deal with.
<-- Chinese civilians (hey, I see a child in the lower right, there...) about to be buried alive by Japanese soldiers"A Japanese newspaper report of the Contest To Cut Down 100 People.
This news was originally reported by the Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shimbun in December 13, 1937. Both soldiers were extradited to China after the war, tried for their actions in Chinese court, and were executed on January 28, 1948."
Japanese soldiers shooting at blindfolded and cuffed Sikh prisoners.You don't like the images? Well, you're the one saying you'd like to go about your business with a nation doing THAT daily over the course of YEARS rather than do a fraction of that kind of murder twice over the course of less than week. PLEASE revoke that sentiment that you would have preferred our surrender to them, because you're essentially saying you'd like us to be guilty of standing by and doing nothing. I understand the...well, the idea, I suppose, that you'd have wanted us to the bigger men. But there's better ways of saying it, alright?
Ultimately, Japan surrendered not in any part to themselves but actually to US capitulation. They refused to surrender due to FOUR terms that they refused to let be changed, and they only surrendered when the United States and the Six basically caved in because we didn't WANT to exterminate or enslave them; we wanted to just end the damn war [that last bit there is for you, MysticKnight].
Chief among them that they refused to let war crime trials be run against them and they refused to let the Emperor be disempowered [despite the fact all roads of horror led to him]. It is these two terms primarily that we, the ones with the obvious advantage and the capacity to annihilate actually went and BUCKLED on. And it's worth noting that a coup d'état was actually staged by the military to try to PREVENT THE SURRENDER. [AGAIN, MYSTIC KNIGHT. AGAIN. For you.]
Again. I am not arguing against the horror of the bombs. And I will always agree that they were immoral, horrible actions. But I also will not back down on this point: They were necessary. Necessity is a cruel thing to deal with.
