The Nuking of Japan

[System of Solace]

Russia declared war on Japan the day before the first bomb was dropped. Look it up, if you don't believe me. Not even a kamikaze pilot would be nuts enough to think it could take Russia and the United States. Remember, the European part of the war was already over. Japan was fucked. China hated Japan, thanks to their recent indiscretions. Russia was turning its eyes to Japan like fucking Sauron on his fucking period and the United States was fast making it possible to attack the mainland, which had been a major strategic problem since the start of the Pacific conflict.

You might be surprised as to how fanatical they were. Besides, I did look it up. Thanks for proving yourself wrong.

Prove it.

Must I? I grow tired of doing it.

• Suicide of thousands of citizens
  
• Buildings being destroyed and bombed
  
• Citizens being killed by careless soldiers
  
• Fanatical Japanese fighting for their homeland
  
• Major kamikaze attacks
  
• We would have to take a LOT of Japan to induce surrender, even capture of Tokyo does not guarantee it immediately
  

They declared war on Japan, which had fast fading resources, thanks to the U.S. refusal to do trade with them unless they pulled out of China, which led to the attack on Pearl Harbor. Their greatest ally was defeated and they had absolutely no means of sustaining their country with goods from elsewhere. Do you think Japan has all of the natural resources needed for war? Russia and the U.S. could have easily put up a naval blockade, particularly if China cooperated. The only strategy problem they had was fuel.

As far as we know, Russia only wanted Manchuria. And the US objective was to induce surrender as quickly as possible with the least amount of casualties. Truman was shocked to hear an estimate of US landing casualties-bloodier than D-Day, I believe. 50-100k, and that's only US soldiers establishing a beachhead. China was pretty ravaged, but I'm sure they wanted revenge.

What the fuck are you talking about? Help the U.S.? Germany declared war on Russia before Pearl Harbor even happened, so well before the United States entered the war. The Cold War had everything to do with the aftermath of World War II and who would take the bulk of power. It had fuckall to do with what happened before or even during the war, unless you count the nuclear arms race.

My point was that Stalin was very reluctant to ask for our help and if he thanked us he did not do so very sincerely. Russia would not have launched a mainland invasion of Japan and if they did it would be because we were just sitting on our asses for months. US-Soviet hatred was also due to differing governmental ideals, which continued from before WW2 until the 90's.


Creed, I was about to suggest the same things be posted. Thanks.