(September 11, 2012 at 9:49 pm)Shell B Wrote: Sorry, CoH. That is another straw man. I never said I would have preferred to continue to fight, which is what throwing them in a meat grinder insinuates. I didn't say they should do any business with Japan, either. Surrender does not mean lifting trade embargos. A well negotiated surrender could have meant nothing more than, "Hey, let's stop fighting." They would have negotiated. They did negotiate. Saying it is because of the nukes is like saying, "Yeah, my wife made my dinner . . . because I punched her fucking teeth out."
But they did not negotiate, they had to surrender. I have forgotten the term used, that was the American position, but it did not allow for negotiation.