The Nuking of Japan

[greneknight]

I find it hilarious how certain of us have such quaint ideas about war.

Don't be a prat. Knowing that certain acts of war are just plain horrendous does not make one's notions quaint.

War isn't quaint. It doesn't have your notions of honour or etiquette.

Actually, military personnel are quite often held to a higher standard of honor and etiquette. You should see the rules the army has for how soldiers are supposed to treat civilians, even state side.

There isn't a right way to kill someone and a human being doesn't stop being human just because it wears a uniform.

Funny. No one so much as hinted that there was. However, there are weapons that are too vast in their scope to be legitimately used in war. We learned that. If it was so fucking right, why haven't we used them again?

War will kill, maim, destroy with little regard for whoever is in its path. No-one is guilty and no-one is innocent because war doesn't presume to make such judgements. Murder, rape, torture.

That's a load of bullshit perpetuated by shitty war movies. If there are no guilty and no innocent, why are their war criminals? It is not somehow deep to look at the horror of war as unavoidable. It's actually dismissive and weak.

Travesties when performed by the other side but conventionally ignored when performed by our own. We will decorate those who we would call murderers in any other circumstance.

This is what the "quaint" people are pointing out, you little contradictory butthead.

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Seriously, greneknight, you realize that Jap is a racial slur, right? Fuck's sake, it is impossible to take you seriously when you sound like a fucking hillbilly.

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I totally disagree. It was an act which was the lesser of two evils. You probably do not know the evil atrocities committed by the Japs on many Asian countries and what the US did was wonderful in the eyes of the tortured victims. Without these two A-bombs, Japan would never have gone down on its knees. The people of Japan prior to the A-bombs were all for the war and their Emperor. The mushroom clouds were a symbol of hope and salvation for many innocent people in Asia whose families were massacred by the Japs. I've seen a documentary on this.

As I have said, the Japs continue to worship their Class A war criminals and torturers in their Yasukuni shrine. It's a sign that they are unrepentant which is why they are not allowed to build up their military to this day. They can't be trusted. Imagine if Hitler's shrine is venerated in Germany. No, the Germans are decent people, unlike the Japs.

Cute. You ignored the atrocities committed by China on the Japanese. Nearly every, if not every, country on this planet is responsible for something similar. Do not pretend that the Japanese are somehow worse.

Yo,

To distinguish my post from yours, I'll use a different and more exciting colour and text size.

You said this: "Seriously, greneknight, you realize that Jap is a racial slur, right? Fuck's sake, it is impossible to take you seriously when you sound like a fucking hillbilly.

No, Jap is not a racial slur. How on earth can Jap be a racial slur? It's short for Japanese. It's like Aussie for Australian, Brit for British, Czech for citizen of the Czech Republic, Pole for Polish and Scot for Scottish.

You mentioned that I ignored the atrocities commited by the Chinese on the Japanese (I'll say it in full since you don't like the short form). It's like saying I ignored the atrocities committed by the Jews against the Germans. Pray tell, what atrocities did the Chinese commit on the Japanese? What are these atrocities? Anything like the Rape of Nanking? Anything like the concentration camps that British soldiers were sent to by the Japs. Have you seen pics of these British soldiers, how emaciated they were to the point of death? I've read books about the cruelty and the worst thing is the Japanese are not even remotely repentant. They seem impervious to good morality. They are like the Old Testament God and the Old Testament Israelites.