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[Eilonnwy]

Therefore none of us is different, and all of us are clones? Just because you were 'that way', and many people are 'that way': does not translate to all of us being that way. To agree with an age restriction... is to say that perfectly fine wine will not be "just right" until next year.

Yes because having age restrictions means you're all clones. e_e You're creating a strawman. No where did ANYONE say all teenagers act exactly the same, only that they are immature. Being immature does not mean you all act the same, it's ridiculous to even suggest such a thing.

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Then the majority of people is also irresponsible, Eilon. It is not fair, Eilon... it is equal, and this equality is unfair.

Now who is making hasty generalizations? Hmm?

Truth is I agree, many people are irresponsible, but it's irrelevant to argument, you're crossing over into personal responsibility for people in general.

To show you why equality is unfair: Person A works all day, works hard, works well... and gets paid as much as person B who does not work more than an hour a day, works lazily, and works poorly. This is equality, and this is why I will never support it: Equality is not fair.

Fair treatment would dictate that Person A would get paid a great deal for doing a great deal of work... and Person B would get next to nothing at all.

Person A never graduated high school he works hard all day because he decided he didn't want to go to go to school, and instead got a job working at his skill level.

Person B spent hard work and dedication as well as a lot of money going to school, going through college, and getting that job that they get to work on for an hour a day.

Sae, you're creating strawman. The world is far more complex than you make it out to be.

Let us translate this now to this age-line. Person A is reserved, mature, self-sufficient, and has 100% attendance... while Person B is obnoxious, immature, a moocher, and misses school almost enough each week to get thrown out.

Treating them equally, Person A will lawfully receive their ability to make choices for themself when they are 18. Person B will be able to make equivalent choices at the same time. This is an equal system... and because of that: this is an unfair system.

You may think it 'utterly absurd' that you get what you deserve... but me? I think it is fair.

Fair, I keep hearing this word fair. You know the world is hardly ever fair. That's a reality. Communism, which on paper is fair, is a complete failure. You honestly think a system of psychiatric evaluation for maturity would result in a fair and perfect world, that goverment controlling the individual rights based on what other people deem mature would actually work? Your argument is naive at best.

I learned a long time ago that what's ideal rarely intersects with what's realistic. We all strive to make the best of all these complex situations, and because people are simply only human, nothing will be perfectly fair.

Age restrictions are perfectly reasonable and as fair as you're going to get.