(September 17, 2009 at 6:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(September 17, 2009 at 4:49 pm)chatpilot Wrote: There is literally no logical way in my opinion that you can prove the existence of God without suspending reason.And here I really struggle to understand that you were once trained in this stuff coming out with such basic misunderstanding.
1. Proof isn't ever the issue.
2. Existence isn't ever the issue.
Quote:If you read Jon Paul's thread you will see laid out the logic of what you claim to have believed,You mean, like a proof? (See 1. huh?)
Quote: and not what you say now you believed. God is thoroughly logical and exactly not evidential or provably existant. To claim otherwise is pleading to ignorance.
Not evidential or provably existant, but thoroughly logical? Oh obviously! hock:
Rhizo