RE: Fundamentalist Trekkies....
September 19, 2012 at 9:10 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2012 at 9:13 pm by Autumnlicious.)
(September 19, 2012 at 5:42 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: They were ages 25 to 30 with the exception of Chekov who was 18. They're hardly "kids." In TOS they were in their mid thirties so the movie being set before their five year mission, the ages are about right.
Except that the dumbass movie ends up with Kirk mysteriously in command well ahead of time, glossing over EVERYTHING prior to his career (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/James_T....or_officer).
He never started out with command in a star ship, he got it after Pike was relieved of command at age 31.
The fucking movie completely takes a shit on http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Obsession_(episode) dumping it in favor of JJ Abrams steam punk fantasy. (BTW Obsession is one of my favorite episodes as it deals with survivor guilt and second guessing oneself).
(September 19, 2012 at 5:42 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: You're forgetting that Spock is half human half vulcan who's struggling with emotions. He just lost his entire planet a few minutes before the fight scene and Kirk was trying to get him to fight so he'd take control of the ship.
Except that NO PROFESSIONAL crew would ALLOW the captain, or any other MILITARY officer, to assault a prisoner on the bridge. That's not just barbaric and out of place, but is conduct unbecoming of an officer and worthy of a letter of concern or even reprimand.
Also, that's NOT the Spock I knew from TOS, who remained logical under the most duress, excepting for the incident with the Omicron Ceti III spores which was chemically induced.
Also, what about Spocks "No. Just let them die" part? That is totally out of character. Totally revenge based, totally emotional. Logical my ass. He might as well be a full blooded terran.
And by your silly age standards, Spock should be much older and thus much more controlled. A vulcan losing control?
That shit got pioneered in Enterprise with T'Pal and her addiction to Trellium-D.
So yeah, let me call you out on your bullshit -- Star Trek, the new movie, totally rewrote the characters in lieu of something else.
(September 19, 2012 at 5:42 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: As for what Nero's gang was doing, IDK. I think I read they were supposedly on that Klingon prison planet for a little while and then they escaped. I imagine they were planning the destruction of the Vulcan planet the whole time.
That is so weak and you know it.
They possess a mining ship from the future that Uhura overheard blew up an entire FLEET of Klingon D7 Cruisers, the most POWERFUL Klingon warships in TOS era.
What were they doing while Nero was locked up? Having a party?
The plot hole is large enough to drive a comet through.
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