(September 19, 2012 at 9:10 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:(September 19, 2012 at 5:42 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: They were ages 25 to 30 with the exception of Chekov who was 18. They're hardly "kids." In TOS they were in their mid thirties so the movie being set before their five year mission, the ages are about right.
Except that the dumbass movie ends up with Kirk mysteriously in command well ahead of time, glossing over EVERYTHING prior to his career (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/James_T....or_officer).
This is a new timeline! All previous Star Trek history after the Kelvin incident is now relegated to the old timeline. It's not going to follow the same series of events.
Quote:(September 19, 2012 at 5:42 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: You're forgetting that Spock is half human half vulcan who's struggling with emotions. He just lost his entire planet a few minutes before the fight scene and Kirk was trying to get him to fight so he'd take control of the ship.
Except that NO PROFESSIONAL crew would ALLOW the captain, or any other MILITARY officer, to assault a prisoner on the bridge. That's not just barbaric and out of place, but is conduct unbecoming of an officer and worthy of a letter of concern or even reprimand.
Except that the Enterprise was under state of emergency. Who knows why they didn't intervene? It can plausible have been the bystander effect. And Spock immediately relieved himself of duty!
Quote:Also, that's NOT the Spock I knew from TOS, who remained logical under the most duress, excepting for the incident with the Omicron Ceti III spores which was chemically induced.
Again, we're in another timeline. And this is younger Spock than was in TOS.
Quote:Also, what about Spocks "No. Just let them die" part? That is totally out of character. Totally revenge based, totally emotional. Logical my ass. He might as well be a full blooded terran.
Nero asked to die. And they could have been a threat to the Enterprise if they beamed aboard.
Quote:And by your silly age standards, Spock should be much older and thus much more controlled. A vulcan losing control?
Spock is the same age as Kirk, which in the movie was 26 if I remember correctly.
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They possess a mining ship from the future that Uhura overheard blew up an entire FLEET of Klingon D7 Cruisers, the most POWERFUL Klingon warships in TOS era.
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The mining vessel was ENORMOUS. And in the official IDW comics written by the people who wrote the movie, the mining vessel was significantly enhanced by Borg technology for the purpose of waging war against the federation!
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).