Is this seriously worth it? Guantanmo inmate never charged with a crime, dies after 11 years in US custody

[jonb]

From my perspective, this is just how things are, the innocent, will always have to pay the price. The mistake is that Guantanmo has anything to do with justice. The American government would have been in an impossible situation if they admitted they knew fuck all about Islamic inspired terrorism, and that they could do zilch about it. So they had to trawl for suspects, and they had no hard evidence. If they had only picked up people which there was hard evidence for committing acts of terror, not only would there still probably not be one imprisoned, but they would not even have an idea who they were. So any sort of lead had to be pursued.There is evidence which I have not got to hand, but I can vaguely remember a foreign office official saying that some eastern dictators used the American governments need for suspects to get in the USA's good books by inventing suspects, torturing them until they admitted something or other and then providing the USA with the concocted evidence. Now even when the US had a load of suspects. The US still could not really say it knew the extent of the threat that opposed it so naturally it went down the root of trying to extract information by any means possible. To have done any less after an attack like the twin towers would be hard to argue in-front of a patriotic crowd of voters. Whet is left after that is a set of individuals that you have mistreated that often have some standing in their communities, do you let the innocent go? Remember you have now done enough to them that they would often feel more than justified if they started physically attacking you. OK my argument rests on superposition, but I don't think that much. This to me is a question of 'real politics' and it has played out that way in many situations, from Northern Ireland, Algeria, etc. Wrong or right seem silly terms to me to look at this, it is just how the way things are, and if a solution is to be found it has to be found in the real world probably without loaded terms like innocence and guilt.