(September 26, 2012 at 9:09 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: It's not really that, friend. The thing is, homosexuality is not normal. I'm not saying that homosexuals are not "normal", they can very well marry and reproduce as other people, and get married on that accord, have their own families. But those who build an identity on simply their carnal desires of flesh, and especially those which are considered and known to be abnormal....How do you expect them to be a part of a society? It has nothing to do with ignorance, fear, bigortry or religiousity. People, both homosexual and heterosexual know what homosexuality is. And they treat it accordingly from their own perspective.
İnclusive? Well, society can be inclusive to such people by simply guaranteeing their safety and well-being, which would also help to maintain harmony, order and law.
But other than that, why are we ought to give homosexuals something that they are not entitled to in the first place?
Besides, I'm sure people made arguments about whether allowing blacks into universities, but I'm uncertain whether similar bias existed towards homosexuals at that time.
The situation of homosexuals cannot be compared to what the descendants of former slaves have seen at the hand of their former masters. About suffrage rights for women, that too, is just another thing. I'm not saying that we should ban homosexuals from voting, or take away their rights on property or education. These are things that are not related to their sexual identities, identities that they have only recently began to flaunt around, and asking privilages related to them, like marriage.
Not "normal"??? Then why are animals homosexual? I believe the number is 60-some different species humans have documented the animals engaging in homosexual activity.
And if I'm reading you correctly you are saying because being homosexual is a sexual identity, they should be denied rights pertaining to the arena from whence their minority status comes from? This makes no sense.
If you think being a black male doesn't include a sexual identity, you are wrong. Just look at all the black men who have been lynched over the years for looking at a white woman, for being accused of consensual relations with a white woman, for being accused of rape... That is a sexual identity as well. The same is true of black females historically, never heard of the the whole Venus Hottentot thing have you?
