There is no god or gods!

[Dranu]

I see your point. That argument fails on so many levels that it would be a waste of time.

Sure, whatever. If you want to discuss it though, let me know.

Let us get back on track. Take "Russell's teapot" for example. I can send a satellite up and verify it's existence or not. A 'true believer' however, will insist that the satellite was in the wrong orbit to observe it or used the wrong equipment. Maybe the satellite was arbitrarily at the same speed? Set the satellite to random bursts of speed to compensate, then the 'true believer' will say the 'teapot' affected the orbital speed to remain undetected. Etc., etc., ad nauseam.

Okay? I am not sure I see the relevance here friend. Are you saying (because I am more interested in my discussion with you, not something you quote and I care not to read) that arguments that demonstrate that it is near impossible to show something 'x' is existent or non-existent are proof they are non-existent? If so that seems a tad bit peculiar. I would think a pure agnostic position would make more s[/i]ense there if thats the case (on a basis of reason alone anyhow).

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I thought the stated point of the thread was to "elaborate on what possible proof there could be for the non-existence of any god or gods." I gave my answer (proof) in the first post in this thread that there is no such argument (and can never be) as it relates to God (the almighty) in the major religions.