RE: Hare Krishna
October 6, 2012 at 11:58 am
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2012 at 12:02 pm by Reforged.)
(October 6, 2012 at 11:24 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote:(October 6, 2012 at 11:04 am)Simon Moon Wrote: Here's the problem. You are positing this -
? -> god -> magic god process -> singularity -> big bang -> universe
The evidence points to -
? -> singularity -> big bang -> universe
These 2 statements do not have equal merit.
We are fine with that initial unknown. You are just piling on more layers of unknowns where none are needed, and for which no evidence exists.
You have to explain how your god came to exist. What process he used to create the universe? Why a perfect being would even need to create anything in the first place? And plenty more.
What you are positing has no explanatory power. Your "God did it" does not explain a thing. In fact, it just sweeps the entire question under the rug.
This was a great comment too! You what I love about it? The question marks at the beginning of both timelines - both atheist and theist timelines! Those are so great because they indicate that there are huge huge things about reality that we just can't figure out or perceive on our own. I guess whatever it is that set up the universe just didn't give us the power to fully figure everything out.
I think it's really awesome that you're fine with those question marks. You're so fine with your question marks, in fact, that you have the amazing confidence to say "I don't know squat about major shit in the universe, but I'm still ready to tell you what a dope you are for also having question marks in your timeline."
I'd like to make a slight adjustment to your timeline, though...
? -> singularity -> big bang -> universe -> ? -> life
Did you notice the other question mark in there? I'm guessing you're probably cool with that one too, and that's great for you. But lets be real: you being cool with that is based on a leap of faith. There's no reason to be cool with that. You just have to believe.
Yes, because God is a question mark, so is heaven and so is the supernatural. Thats not idiotic at all. Well done.
Oh and admitting you don't know everything and only claiming what you do know based on evidence requires faith now does it?
Think you'll find the big bang and the singularity are simply the most backed scientific theories, maybe you should look up the definition of theory.
I'll give you a hint, it doesn't mean the inexorable part of a belief system.
You've already disappointed me and lowered my opinion of you intellectually.
I think thats a new record. I saw "hare krishna" and thought;
"Hm, well I've never met someone of that religion... maybe they will be intelligent, philosophical and insightful."
All evidence to the contrary so far.
You stating Atheism is the belief that we all come from nothing was one of my personal favourites. Did you actually do one bit of research into what Atheism actually is before you joined an Atheist forum?
No, of course you didn't. People like you never do.
You just automatically think you know better.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.