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How do I know the things I know?
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RE: How do I know the things I know?
(October 8, 2012 at 4:37 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote:
(October 7, 2012 at 11:58 am)Darkstar Wrote: Don't you think that maybe this 'seeing' god is actually just interpreting things that are completely natural as acts of god? Why do we have to 'find' god anyway? Should we take our seniors' word for it? Why does god value belief over worship; shouldn't he just reveal himself to everyone and see who will follow?


1. Maybe, but no, I don't think so. Do you ever think your faith in scientism is actually just interpreting acts of god as completely natural?

2. You certainly don't have to if you don't want to.

3. Depends. Sometimes it's smart to take your seniors words on things, other times, not. I'm sure we've all had both experiences.

1. Agreed, arguing over that point would be ultimately futile.

2. Okay

3. Right. There is a difference between taking someone's word for it and following the evidence.
Marcello Truzzi Wrote:Extraordinary claims require extrordinary evidence.
If someone says that they have a dog, we can take their word for it. The claim of owning a dog is not extraordinary. If we didn't believe them, they could just show us the dog to prove it. If someone said they had a pet alien, we would not take their word for it. If they showed us the alien, we would believe them, but if they refused, we would assume they were lying about it. If someone said an all-powerful being created the universe, whilst refusing to explain how said being's origins could possibly be less complex and unlikely than the origins of the universe itself, we would not believe them (unless we were little kids being indoctrinated). You see, scientists do all of the questioning for us. You might say that they could be lying about that too, but here's the thing: science works. Computers work, the laws of physics work, scinece has earned our trust in that not only does it work, but if it is ever wrong, it will correct itself.



Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote:Scientism - the view that empirical science can entirely explain reality, based on the fallible authority of the human attempt at knowledge - is a myth.

Big Grin

Sorry, but science can entirely explain reality. It can't explain that which lies outside reality, like god. No, not the universe, reality, as in actually existing. If god existed, we couldn't explain him, but the fact is that we don't have any reason to think he exists. To say that we haven't yet explined everything; therefore god, is a common fallacy. To say we aren't perfect, therefore god is unknowable and undetectable, contradicts this:
Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote:Who says God values belief over worship? He does reveal Himself to everyone and sees who follows.
...no he doesn't. If he did, there would be no atheists.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Minimalist - October 5, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Minimalist - October 5, 2012 at 10:38 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Zevaeros - October 5, 2012 at 11:29 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Shell B - October 5, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 6, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 6, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 2:02 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 2:49 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 2:27 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 2:28 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Whateverist - October 7, 2012 at 3:35 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 11:58 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 11:28 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by MysticKnight - October 8, 2012 at 6:56 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 8, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Angrboda - October 27, 2012 at 4:22 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Edwardo Piet - October 25, 2012 at 4:32 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Shell B - October 6, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 1:47 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by cratehorus - October 6, 2012 at 3:41 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Simon Moon - October 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Cyberman - October 6, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by liam - October 24, 2012 at 7:14 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 24, 2012 at 7:16 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Minimalist - October 6, 2012 at 1:40 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Annik - October 6, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Shell B - October 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 7, 2012 at 2:08 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 10:07 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Edwardo Piet - October 24, 2012 at 10:39 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 24, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Cyberman - October 25, 2012 at 4:51 am
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by IATIA - October 25, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: How do I know the things I know? - by Darkstar - October 25, 2012 at 7:40 pm

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