RE: Ask, Seek, Knock
October 13, 2012 at 2:17 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2012 at 2:33 pm by Drich.)
(October 13, 2012 at 6:40 am)Tino Wrote:(October 12, 2012 at 12:38 am)Drich Wrote: This is where you become an ath-tard. What makes You think God is your Father? Creator yes, but as a non believer you are not His son (yet.) It is the start of the process of A/S/K that will eventually have you grafted into the family. Right now you are a tare, a weed, chaff, a goat, in short undesireable. It is the undesireable that will be seperated from those slated to be with God. So don't worry neither God nor bible believeing Christians look at you as a brother/son. That said know the potential is definatly there. It simply depends on your willingness to A/S/K.
Wow. It's religion without the "god loves you" part. Drich, what denomination/church do you represent?
It's a non denominnational faith centered around scripture rather than empty dogma or doctrine.
http://www.harvestbiblechapel.org/
(October 13, 2012 at 11:39 am)Cinjin Wrote: Seriously, pull your head out of your ass. What dipshit pulpit-thumper told you that bit of bull shit??
The google search you suggested along with one on one studies with muslims and hindus.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=to...93&bih=453
(October 13, 2012 at 1:29 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(October 13, 2012 at 12:49 am)Drich Wrote: Appearently you do not understand either of those faiths. For their gods are unknowable. Their gods do not offer a relationship with any of them. Their God is not offering a literal peice of Himself to instruct and guide them to a full fillment in understanding of Him.
Quite honestly, I'm far more likely to maintain a conversation (ie without looking around for the exit) with a person who merely worships a god or gods, than I am with someone who insists they have a personal, living relationship with one.
Appearently not. for you seem to be compelled to start a conversation with someone who claims a personal relationship with God.
That said, your choosing wether or to a/s/k for God or even speak to someone who has, is the reason you have been given this life.
(October 13, 2012 at 1:45 pm)Ryantology Wrote: As I have no real desire to respond point-by-point to all that, I'll say that I certainly did not submit myself to the complete annihilation of self your personal interpretation of God's will demands, and I would never.Maybe that was the problem. You were looking for a 'reason to live this life.' and God was offering a reason to live for eternity.
What I wanted, really, all I wanted when you boil it down, was a reason to live. What I got from God is a message saying "I couldn't care less".
Quote:So, no, I have no desire to ever try again. Your God is not worth even my contempt, let alone devotion. He wasn't there, and had I understood ahead of time that it was because he doesn't exist, I could have saved myself four years of wasted effort.It wasn't any more of a waisted effort than anything else you have done to live this life to the fullest. Life (without god) is nothing more than an accumliation of experiences. Good bad or indifferent these experiences make us who we are. and whether you like it or not the 10 years you spent as a member of a social religious group has contributed to your over all personality.
Quote:And, if in spite of all that I'm wrong and he is there, fuck him. I tried as hard as I could short of completely breaking down. If that's what he demands of me, he's a sadistic shit and I want no part of him.Which is the reason you are here. to make that choice. Good, bad or indifferent.
Quote: I still struggle with these things and probably always will, but all Christianity did was give me more reasons to hate myself, which is the very last thing I need.If you hate yourself because of christianity then i would say you got ahold of the wrong brand of religion. Because dying to self is only 1/2 of the equasion. Once we die to self then we can adopt the idenity God has set before us. We can obtain value and self worth for doing what it is we were created to do. From this we are held in regaurds to God, and can take pride in the completion of role He has set aside for us.