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RE: Beginnings
October 17, 2012 at 1:37 pm
(October 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(October 17, 2012 at 8:23 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: But we see that there is consciousness in the effect - I'm conscious, I imagine you are too.

Why shouldn't consciousness exist in the cause?

Because consciousness didn't exist in the effect for a significant portion of it. Thus the reasonable conclusion is that consciousness is the effect of the effect and not a party to the cause.
I just want to thank you for posting the only reasonable response to this point. Whether I agree with it or not, at least it makes sense!

Maybe your point is true, maybe not. Do models of the origin of the universe prove that consciousness didn't exist for a significant early portion of it, or are they based on that assumption?
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Beginnings - by Reasonable_Jeff - October 17, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: Beginnings - by Faith No More - October 17, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Beginnings - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 17, 2012 at 8:23 am
RE: Beginnings - by Shell B - October 17, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: Beginnings - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Annik - October 17, 2012 at 1:07 pm
RE: Beginnings - by genkaus - October 17, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 17, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Something completely different - October 17, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: Beginnings - by jonb - October 17, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: Beginnings - by KichigaiNeko - October 17, 2012 at 8:27 am
RE: Beginnings - by Faith No More - October 17, 2012 at 8:29 am
RE: Beginnings - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 17, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Annik - October 17, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 17, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: Beginnings - by genkaus - October 17, 2012 at 1:51 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Darkstar - October 17, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Zen Badger - October 17, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: Beginnings - by Rhizomorph13 - October 17, 2012 at 10:23 am
RE: Beginnings - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2012 at 10:48 am
RE: Beginnings - by Ben Davis - October 17, 2012 at 10:51 am
RE: Beginnings - by Reasonable_Jeff - October 17, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Ben Davis - October 18, 2012 at 5:04 am
RE: Beginnings - by Minimalist - October 17, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: Beginnings - by Mister Agenda - October 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Beginnings - by genkaus - October 17, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Annik - October 17, 2012 at 1:28 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Rhizomorph13 - October 17, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 17, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Reasonable_Jeff - October 17, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 17, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Shell B - October 17, 2012 at 6:18 pm
RE: Beginnings - by pocaracas - October 17, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Cyberman - October 17, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Reasonable_Jeff - October 17, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RE: Beginnings - by The Grand Nudger - October 17, 2012 at 6:49 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Annik - October 18, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: Beginnings - by thesummerqueen - October 18, 2012 at 10:05 am
RE: Beginnings - by LostLocke - October 18, 2012 at 10:12 am
RE: Beginnings - by Whateverist - October 18, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: Beginnings - by overlord fombax - October 18, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: Beginnings - by downbeatplumb - October 18, 2012 at 2:28 pm
RE: Beginnings - by Simon Moon - October 18, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Beginnings - by MysticKnight - October 19, 2012 at 12:52 pm
RE: Beginnings - by downbeatplumb - October 19, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Beginnings - by MysticKnight - October 19, 2012 at 1:16 pm
RE: Beginnings - by overlord fombax - October 19, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RE: Beginnings - by downbeatplumb - October 19, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RE: Beginnings - by JDS - November 4, 2012 at 1:00 pm



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