(October 18, 2012 at 10:54 pm)Drich Wrote:(October 18, 2012 at 6:33 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: No, I'm not begging the question. I was saying your explanation is made up, not the chronology (which I think is made up too but that's beside the point here).I have addressed your main point several times. You choose to simply say "You haven't addressed my main point" rather than discuss what has been said. your attempting to disect my arguement and pretend that none of the points being made are related and that your arguement has not been refuted at every turn.
You ignored my main point:
If you want to further this discussion then simply turn your attention to the point that have been made once you acknoweledge what has been said then we can move on. otherwise know your lack of partisipation effectivly ends this conversation.
I've read that page twice now, and I see no reason given why we should read the verse as talking about Mary's lineage. All I've seen is what it might possibly mean (despite there being no indication in the verse itself) and then the non sequitur conclusion is drawn that therefore it must mean that.
This is the common fallacy one see's in apologetics: confusing possibility for probability. It might possible mean Mary's line, therefore it probably means Mary's line.
What you need to provide:
(1) evidence of a practice of showing a line through the mother's side while never mentioning the mother and instead naming the father
(2) evidence of embarrassment about naming the lineage through the mother
(3) (most importantly) solid reasons why the verse should be read as being Mary's lineage and not Joseph's.
My ignore list
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).