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Oh, D'Souza.....
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RE: Oh, D'Souza.....
(October 19, 2012 at 10:38 am)Akincana Krishna dasa Wrote: I just watched him debate Hitchens and Dennett, I thought he played those debates well.
Those were amongst the debates that I've seen, too. We must have very different views of what constitutes a good debater.

Quote:Why does he assume the Bible is a valuable book worth following? Do you think there are no good reasons to do so, that only an "idiot" would do so?
I know there are reasons to do so. The vast majority of them cause demonstrable harm.

Quote:I think to be this adamant in your position, you're really going to have to provide a lot to help us out with answers to the mysteries of life. More inconclusive "debunking" of various theistic arguments isn't really enough. If you can't provide a serious answer that describes the origin and basis of life and reality, how can you call someone else an "idiot" for taking a different position on the issue than you? Don't you hear yourself sounding like an atheist fanatic or fundamentalist? How about a little humility?
Do you realise how fallacious 'God of the gaps' arguments are? And do you understand how condescending it is to berate someone for not having all the answers? If someone proposes illogical, unreasonable, unverifiable, factually incorrect, unevidenced and/or self-contradictory answers, for the sake of having a made-up answer when having none would be better, the right thing to do is to call that person an 'idiot' or other appropriate term. To call that 'fundamentalism' is to abuse that term or completely misunderstand how that term should be applied.

Also it is not humble to allow idiots to spread misinformation, it's arguably a crime against humanity.

Quote:I respect that there may be valuable ideals worth following in the Bible
Only the minority. And all of those can be achieved by secular means; no religion necessary.

Quote:I don't see have you have a stronger, more convincing, world-view to offer instead.
If you don't see the benefits of a reasonable, evidence-based world-view, I'm sad to say that you fall foul of the accusation previously levelled at D'Souza.
Sum ergo sum
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Oh, D'Souza..... - by System of Solace - October 18, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 18, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 18, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by DeistPaladin - October 18, 2012 at 9:53 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Rev. Rye - October 19, 2012 at 10:32 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Minimalist - October 18, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 18, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Minimalist - October 18, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ben Davis - October 19, 2012 at 8:49 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by DeistPaladin - October 19, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 9:34 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 10:18 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Gilgamesh - October 19, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ben Davis - October 19, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Darkstar - October 19, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 10:24 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 11:09 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 11:23 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by downbeatplumb - October 19, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Brian37 - October 19, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by 5thHorseman - October 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

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