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Oh, D'Souza.....
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RE: Oh, D'Souza.....
Didn't watch the entire video, just Swami's opening statement. But this bit:
God gives a basic map, a basic outline how it is we can approach him, and he gives generally a process or processes, whereby which, he, uh, we become open or accessible to that descent not only of knowledge, but revelation... So by which god reveals himself to us, we show our earnestness in wanting to actually know him. So my summation or conclusion would be: Yes god exists. There is not only both evidence, but proof of god, but the evidence is this: You have to practice a spiritual science by which god will reveal himself to you, and then on an individual basis (can't make out) everyone can realize for themselves the existence of god.

Say what? If you follow this "spiritual science" you may or may not experience god (like all religions, the faith of Hare Krishna has also lost believers). This entire statement hinges on the-chicken-or-the-egg-type question of, seek and ye shall find. I myself meditate, not to become "closer" to a god, but to tame my own mind and learn to listen to my inner/subconscious self. I have not experienced god by practicing meditation. Swami goes on to state that the Hare Krishna method of "spiritual science" involves chanting, perhaps the chanting would cause god to reveal himself to me... But it doesn't change the fact that this "spiritual science" isn't science, it isn't reproducible. Which is an important factor in actual science, that one can publish findings about an experiment and someone else can reproduce those findings by setting up the same experiment.
An aside, god is rather inefficient, no? In that he only reveals himself to individuals, not groups of people, and only then to people who worship (my word, you'd probably say "seek") him the "correct" way.
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Oh, D'Souza..... - by System of Solace - October 18, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 18, 2012 at 6:28 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 18, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by DeistPaladin - October 18, 2012 at 9:53 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Rev. Rye - October 19, 2012 at 10:32 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Minimalist - October 18, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 18, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Minimalist - October 18, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 8:19 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ben Davis - October 19, 2012 at 8:49 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by DeistPaladin - October 19, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 9:34 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 10:18 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Gilgamesh - October 19, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ben Davis - October 19, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Darkstar - October 19, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 10:24 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 11:09 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 11:23 am
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Ryantology - October 19, 2012 at 1:48 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by downbeatplumb - October 19, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Brian37 - October 19, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 19, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by Akincana Krishna dasa - October 19, 2012 at 11:48 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by festive1 - October 20, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Oh, D'Souza..... - by 5thHorseman - October 20, 2012 at 1:49 pm

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