(October 21, 2012 at 2:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Why would they realize this? I don't think you understand my question. I'm not trying to argue ideology with you, I'm asking why you assume that some past civilization would have had to agree with your (our) ideology in order to be advanced, or as an effect of it's being advanced.
They can be patriarchal and still be advanced of course. But if they were VERY advanced to the point of understanding and questioning their own social structure, then I suppose they would abandon unjustified social suppresion and become more open. This is what advanced and knwoledgable individuals tend to do. Einstein, Sagan etc. were against social discrimination. If you have a whole society of Einsteins they would probably be egalitarian - this is what I was trying to say. And we cannot exclude such civilizations in the past as it is very easy to wipe out entire cultures with only little trace or none at all. Ancient people do not have to be retarded just because they are ancient. Check out Hypatia or the Anitkythera mechanism - this is when we stop thinking about ancients as retards just running around half naked and eating grapes.
(October 21, 2012 at 2:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: They don't now, but they were once the very center of the academic world. Snapshots in time. At that point in time they were very much under the control of brutal patriarchs.
They only came to be such way since Europe at the time was infested with extreme Xtianity which destroyed true science as well as many other things rendering the Europeans incapable of anything meaningful and drowning in superstition and paranoia.
I simply think that a society would benefit if it could use the full potential of all its members.
