RE: Human Value Nonexistent?
October 23, 2012 at 9:20 am
(This post was last modified: October 23, 2012 at 9:24 am by Whateverist.)
(October 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: To think that you're life is more valuable than an ant would just to be guilty of speciesism. If there is no objective being to give your life value, then it has no objective value. Any value that you would perceive your life to have would be just an self-deception.
Wrong again! When I taste a new dish and declare it excellent I am in no way deceiving myself. I really like it. My subjective approval is an objective fact known only to me.
(October 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: Moreover, the OP quoted Dawkins saying that there exists no good, no evil.
AND ALL OF YOU AGREE WITH THIS?!?!?!?!?!
Probably. Leastwise I agree with it.
(October 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: On atheism, you have no grounds to say that this is wrong.[/b] Life simply is....you can do what you wish with it. There's nothing wrong with using other humans for science experiments against their will and at the cost of their lives.
Sure there is. We don't like it, wouldn't want them done on us and therefore are not going to permit it in a society that reflects our wishes. No god required. No objective moral meter readings required. Just us stringing your ass up if you bring that sick shit around our neighborhood.
(October 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: If there is no God, life came from nothing and ends in nothing. Not only do our individual lives end in death, the universe itself will end in a heat death and will go back to being what it was in the beginning...nothing.
Correct. So what?
(October 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: Nothing before the Big Bang, nothing afterwards....
Let's not go there. No one really knows that.
(October 19, 2012 at 6:55 pm)Reasonable_Jeff Wrote: If there is no God what value could your life possible have?
That's for me to decide. We're up for this. Afterall, we invented god, why shouldn't we be able to whip up a nice batch of meaning?