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"Islamophobia"
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RE: "Islamophobia"
(October 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Spectrum, honestly the west has a superiority complex. They always think their culture is superior. Their way of life is superior.

I can't make generalizing statements about Islamic nations being barbaric, but you can make generalizing statements about Westerners being narcissists. How does that work, again?


(October 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: why are trying to shove it down other cultures throat?

Why are you trying to ignore what I say?

(October 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm)Spectrum Wrote: Now, if Muslims coming into the West would like to keep the religion to themselves and adopt Western customs, we wouldn't have to worry.
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I am not asking for some purge of the Muslims within the West, but at the same time, I do not like the religion.
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Christianity and Islam have no power unless they are forced upon a population of people. Neither encourage autonomy and the freedom to explore other horizons.
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With that being said, I encourage you guys to take more time and criticize Islam.

I have a right to free speech, and I intend to use it. I'm not forcing anyone to adopt my viewpoints.

(October 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't see Chinese all afraid of Islamic culture and trying to show Chinese culture is superior. The Hindus seem to enjoy their culture without constant need to feel superior to other cultures or shove it down their throat.

I'm not of Eastern descent, nor do I reside within those nations. That's their business; I take no responsibility for their choices. Therefore, that has no bearing on what I intend to do and believe.

(October 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Calling others barbaric won't work and just makes you look like a bigot.

This again...
The fact is that Western nations are ahead of Muslim nations in social rights, education, science, economic policies, technology, infrastructure, and more. You cannot debate facts. Get the fuck over it. I never once said that Muslims are inferior, nor did I say I am superior. I have nothing against African tribes for instance, if that is how they want to live. Also, I can respect Eastern monks who search for ultimate psychological peace. However, I do not want that for the West, and neither do most Westerners. Stop being an ignoramus, and read what I actually say, instead of putting words into my mouth. To quote you, "calling others [bigots] won't work".

(October 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Honor killings have no basis in either Quran or Sunna.

Get to know this place, where honor killings have been known to occur extensively: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindh#Religion

That province is nearly 100% Islamic.

By the way, there are places where honor killing is legal, and in others, like Pakistan, it happens often, and the police don't have the resources to stop it. The government of Pakistan considers honor killing to be a deep-seated issue, so maybe you should too.

Fundamentalists exist where the religion does. You do have a point, though you were not explicit: religion can be used for good or bad.

Right now, there is a lot of bad associated with Islam, and its morals are foreign to the West, who is secular right now. There is just no reason for Westerners to adopt Islam, which has yet to be tamed as Christianity has been.

(October 27, 2012 at 9:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Not on the cultural ground. They simply should disprove it logically and respectfully.

Too bad. With free speech, we can say what we want about Islam, or anything else for that matter (so long as we don't call for violence).
Free speech laws give me that right; now where do you get off on telling me, and other atheists, what to do?

(October 27, 2012 at 9:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: They shouldn't try to make it as if the morals of Islam are barbaric and try to shove their culture as superior.

I didn't say we should do that... Stop making up false dichotomies, so you can feel morally superior.

(October 27, 2012 at 9:42 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I mean come on man, when is the white man going to stop degrading all cultures other then his own?

From Africa to China, to India to poor native Americans....it's got to stop...

Africans enslaved their own and sold people like products... The Mongols had the most violent, brutally savage armies the world has ever seen... The native Americans practiced slavery, and they put unwilling humans on altars to be sacrificed.

ALL humans are capable of great things, deplorable things, and anything in between. How dare you single out those of European descent. You just displayed racist sentiments, right there!

(October 27, 2012 at 9:50 pm)genkaus Wrote: Who is this "white man" you keep talking about? And what does he have to do with my argument?

He thinks it's okay to make vulgar, sweeping generalizations about White people. I guess we have to just accept that is part of his ideology.
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Messages In This Thread
"Islamophobia" - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 27, 2012 at 8:49 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 8:54 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 27, 2012 at 9:08 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Darkstar - October 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by genkaus - October 27, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Darkstar - October 27, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by genkaus - October 27, 2012 at 9:40 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 27, 2012 at 9:48 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by genkaus - October 27, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 27, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by genkaus - October 27, 2012 at 10:18 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 27, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by genkaus - October 27, 2012 at 10:57 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 27, 2012 at 9:25 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 27, 2012 at 9:42 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by jonb - October 27, 2012 at 10:57 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by jonb - October 27, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Darkstar - October 27, 2012 at 11:15 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by jonb - October 27, 2012 at 11:17 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Spectrum - October 27, 2012 at 11:22 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by naimless - October 28, 2012 at 12:19 am
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 28, 2012 at 1:59 am
RE: "Islamophobia" - by genkaus - October 28, 2012 at 6:24 am
RE: "Islamophobia" - by MysticKnight - October 28, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by genkaus - October 29, 2012 at 1:32 am
RE: "Islamophobia" - by TaraJo - October 28, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: "Islamophobia" - by downbeatplumb - October 28, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by TaraJo - October 28, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by downbeatplumb - October 28, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by TaraJo - November 4, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Annik - November 4, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by CapnAwesome - November 1, 2012 at 6:49 pm
RE: "Islamophobia" - by Something completely different - November 1, 2012 at 7:00 pm

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