RE: "Islamophobia"
October 28, 2012 at 1:59 am
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2012 at 2:02 am by Mystic.)
Here is the thoughts you are coming up with. We reasoned our morals from analysis. Islam doesn't have justifications for it's laws by detailed analysis. Therefore our morals are correct and superior to that of Islam. But I'm not sure morality even works that way. Morality is emotionally driven. I know you defined it as dry mathematical like principles but humans generally have not lived according to analytical principles. You are basically saying none of their good could be good, because their gut instinct was unjustified. But you haven't proven that gut instincts are necessarily unjustified. You haven't proven that moral truths cannot be properly basically justified. And it certainly seems to be the case for most humans, that they believe in morals first, and attempt to justify it later. And your first inference, that morality needs freedom, therefore freedom is greatest value, is not proven. Just because morality needs freedom to chose, doesn't mean we have to value freedom as the most important principle. Also, if I am forced to go to school, it doesn't mean I can't appreciate the act of going to school for example. Education itself being forced is not a bad thing. Yes it would be praiseful to chose education as opposed to being forced to it, but I appreciate having been forced to education.
Perhaps learning without "tests" and without school, but self learning, is more praiseful, because it takes more will power, but very few people will learn seriously and not waste their time.
This is just one instance where "freedom" may not be the best thing.
Perhaps some things we should be forced to do, even if it goes against our will, because it's in our benefit.
Going back to the Hijaab, perhaps many people through their youth are more likely not be able appreciate the value of Hijaab. As such, they would not wear it through their youth.
However, once they grow up, they can realize a wisdom in it. If they appreciate being protected. At that time, they would definitely want to have worn it in the past.
Perhaps allowing freedom to be naked in the street. Some youths might feel incline to walk naked for fun. And then it becomes more of a norm slowly and slowly since there would be no punishment. It might be a cool thing through high school.
Also, the rest of society might not want to see naked people. They want to avoid that. In the case of Islam, they believe you should "guard your gaze" because it creates too much base desire. So why shouldn't the will of society be respected?
Your first principle is not even proven. Your inference is non-sequitur. I can say that morality needs emotion, therefore emotion is the most important principle. It doesn't make any sense.
As for the honor of the Hijaab, it would still be applicable if the person appreciated it, and was grateful for the law.
Likewise, I can appreciate society not allowing me to walk naked in the street, and there is then value in belief in that.
Perhaps learning without "tests" and without school, but self learning, is more praiseful, because it takes more will power, but very few people will learn seriously and not waste their time.
This is just one instance where "freedom" may not be the best thing.
Perhaps some things we should be forced to do, even if it goes against our will, because it's in our benefit.
Going back to the Hijaab, perhaps many people through their youth are more likely not be able appreciate the value of Hijaab. As such, they would not wear it through their youth.
However, once they grow up, they can realize a wisdom in it. If they appreciate being protected. At that time, they would definitely want to have worn it in the past.
Perhaps allowing freedom to be naked in the street. Some youths might feel incline to walk naked for fun. And then it becomes more of a norm slowly and slowly since there would be no punishment. It might be a cool thing through high school.
Also, the rest of society might not want to see naked people. They want to avoid that. In the case of Islam, they believe you should "guard your gaze" because it creates too much base desire. So why shouldn't the will of society be respected?
Your first principle is not even proven. Your inference is non-sequitur. I can say that morality needs emotion, therefore emotion is the most important principle. It doesn't make any sense.
As for the honor of the Hijaab, it would still be applicable if the person appreciated it, and was grateful for the law.
Likewise, I can appreciate society not allowing me to walk naked in the street, and there is then value in belief in that.
