RE: The Dalai Lama and Quantum Physics
November 6, 2012 at 9:29 am
(This post was last modified: November 6, 2012 at 9:31 am by passionatefool.)
apophenia,
most of my response wasn't even toward you neither did I care to call you a fundie atheist. I hardly read any of your response. And you seriously need to take some chill pill. I wasn't surprise that the Buddhist forum banned you. I'm sure you did a lot more than innocently ask a question.
"I suppose you suggest we defer to people practicing female genital mutilation in Africa, because, well, it's their tradition, and they've been born into it, and it likely goes back hundreds of years. What a pathetically stupid set of rationalizations for giving people who don't deserve a pass the pass they don't deserve."
I don't know where you got this from. this is a strong indication that you failed to understand what I said and pretty much I should just stop responding to your angry self. I didn't even say just because it is centuries long belief that it would give it any truth, infact I already stated that I don't believe in any of it. I'm saying that they are willing to choose science over belief that they held for so long. Do you see what I am saying? It is almost a slippery slope and an inappropriate exaggeration to compare their practice to mutilation of female genital. That is a silly illogical comparison and isn't even in the same vicinity of a same thing Grow up.
"And I spoke to a Buddhist who studied overseas for two years, and he assured me that Buddhism was a regimented, weekly experience over there, just like Christian services over here. Buddhism is much more heirarchical and institutionalized over there. I have a friend on another forum who is a former Buddhist monk, having been trained in the Thai forest tradition, and he tells me in no uncertain terms in a lot of Buddhist traditions, it's little more than a Buddha fan club. Believe what you want, so long as it drips from Siddhartha's ass"
Atleast these buddhists can openly criticize their religion without fear, that said a about practitioner. I never claimed buddhism isn't a religion either. I was trained in Mahayana tradition and was heading toward ordination to become a trainee monk. I practiced both Pure land tradition and Chan tradition. I also studied variety of different school of Buddhism in Mahayana, Theravada, and Vajrayana. I also taught Buddhism Dharma. I am well aware of what Buddhism is about. I know all the rituals and belief I was trained under. I see all the pros and all the cons. And Now I am an atheist and I point out why I don't believe in Buddhism and if necessary I will criticize what I believe is harmful which I do. I don't know why you guys blow this up out of proportion with your unnecessary anger and vulgar attack. All that I am simply saying is that they are generally moderate and even in most case advocate science, and doesn't care much for influence public education, science education, or in a lot of case political benefits.
"You've just called a theist an atheist. I can't wait for your encore. A little watery eye into whine, perhaps? My Taoist traditions have been around as long as Buddhism, and my Hindu traditions thousands of years more, if not tens of thousands. Come here, I've got some spittle I'm just sure you'd love to lick."
it's not always about you. Glad you are a hindu and a taoist, have fun with that, though I think Hinduism would have A LOT more for us to criticize than Buddhism will ever have.
most of my response wasn't even toward you neither did I care to call you a fundie atheist. I hardly read any of your response. And you seriously need to take some chill pill. I wasn't surprise that the Buddhist forum banned you. I'm sure you did a lot more than innocently ask a question.
"I suppose you suggest we defer to people practicing female genital mutilation in Africa, because, well, it's their tradition, and they've been born into it, and it likely goes back hundreds of years. What a pathetically stupid set of rationalizations for giving people who don't deserve a pass the pass they don't deserve."
I don't know where you got this from. this is a strong indication that you failed to understand what I said and pretty much I should just stop responding to your angry self. I didn't even say just because it is centuries long belief that it would give it any truth, infact I already stated that I don't believe in any of it. I'm saying that they are willing to choose science over belief that they held for so long. Do you see what I am saying? It is almost a slippery slope and an inappropriate exaggeration to compare their practice to mutilation of female genital. That is a silly illogical comparison and isn't even in the same vicinity of a same thing Grow up.
"And I spoke to a Buddhist who studied overseas for two years, and he assured me that Buddhism was a regimented, weekly experience over there, just like Christian services over here. Buddhism is much more heirarchical and institutionalized over there. I have a friend on another forum who is a former Buddhist monk, having been trained in the Thai forest tradition, and he tells me in no uncertain terms in a lot of Buddhist traditions, it's little more than a Buddha fan club. Believe what you want, so long as it drips from Siddhartha's ass"
Atleast these buddhists can openly criticize their religion without fear, that said a about practitioner. I never claimed buddhism isn't a religion either. I was trained in Mahayana tradition and was heading toward ordination to become a trainee monk. I practiced both Pure land tradition and Chan tradition. I also studied variety of different school of Buddhism in Mahayana, Theravada, and Vajrayana. I also taught Buddhism Dharma. I am well aware of what Buddhism is about. I know all the rituals and belief I was trained under. I see all the pros and all the cons. And Now I am an atheist and I point out why I don't believe in Buddhism and if necessary I will criticize what I believe is harmful which I do. I don't know why you guys blow this up out of proportion with your unnecessary anger and vulgar attack. All that I am simply saying is that they are generally moderate and even in most case advocate science, and doesn't care much for influence public education, science education, or in a lot of case political benefits.
"You've just called a theist an atheist. I can't wait for your encore. A little watery eye into whine, perhaps? My Taoist traditions have been around as long as Buddhism, and my Hindu traditions thousands of years more, if not tens of thousands. Come here, I've got some spittle I'm just sure you'd love to lick."
it's not always about you. Glad you are a hindu and a taoist, have fun with that, though I think Hinduism would have A LOT more for us to criticize than Buddhism will ever have.
