RE: My dumbass parents doubt evolution
November 10, 2012 at 1:27 am
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2012 at 1:31 am by Kirbmarc.)
Quote:You have no objective basis to ground any real moral values or duties unless God exists as a grounding for an objective moral reality.
Your god doesn't provide any kind of logic reason for why his morality must be objective. What you do is simply declare that a certain morality is objective just because you believe it is.
An objective moral reality, on the other hand, must be based on the simple principle that we should increase pleasure and reduce pain. Let me show you why.
Morality, if it exists, must be coherent, otherwise it would be useless. To be coherent, this morality theory must be universal: all human beings share common needs and requirements, so having one rule for one person and the opposite rule for another is impossible; it is like proposing a physics theory that says that some rocks fall down, while others fall up.
We know that a morality must exist because morals are set of rules that deal with preferred behaviors, and we know that preferred behaviors exist because even though choices are almost infinite, most human beings make very similar choices, and therefore not all choices can be equal.
Human beings prefer pleasure to pain. The preferred behaviors therefore therefore is "pursue pleasure and avoid pain".
Therefore any universal moral maxim that increases pleasure and reduces pain is a preferred behavior for humanity as a whole. Therefore, an objective morality must be based on moral maxims that increase pleasure and reduce pain.
Quote:You have failed to disprove anything. You clearly don't even understand the arguments you claim are defeated.
Give me time, and I'll tear down your arguments in a more detailed fashion, one by one.
Quote:Fact is you can't. You are lying.
Have you read my post where I have examined all of your supposed "proofs"? I have given a brief explanation for why each one of them doesn't work. Read them again, before you accuse me of lying.