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Experiencing 'proof'
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RE: Experiencing 'proof'
Isn't he just stating the argument from religious experience but in more words?

Something like:

1. When people experience X they have good reason to believe X exists unless they have reason to think otherwise. (Experiences are treated as innocent until proven guilty)
2. Experiences occur which seem to their subjects to be of God.
3. There are no good reasons for thinking all or most experiences which seem to their subjects to be of God are delusive.
4. It is rational to believe that at least some experiences which seem to their subjects to be of God really are experiences of God.
5. It is rational to believe that God exists.
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Messages In This Thread
Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 14, 2012 at 2:37 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Mister Agenda - November 14, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by festive1 - November 14, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Shell B - November 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gambit - November 14, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Faith No More - November 14, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Minimalist - November 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 3:34 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cato - November 14, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Simon Moon - November 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Welsh cake - November 14, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by CapnAwesome - November 14, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Angrboda - November 14, 2012 at 7:08 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 14, 2012 at 8:03 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Strongbad - November 14, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 14, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gambit - November 14, 2012 at 9:38 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 14, 2012 at 9:54 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 9:59 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 10:01 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cato - November 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Simon Moon - November 15, 2012 at 12:21 am
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 10:34 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Minimalist - November 14, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Minimalist - November 14, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 11:20 am
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 12:13 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 12:38 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 15, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 12:55 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Angrboda - November 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Kirbmarc - November 15, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:28 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 1:46 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gambit - November 15, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 4:35 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Welsh cake - November 15, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 16, 2012 at 12:47 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gilgamesh - November 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 15, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by mr.atheist - November 15, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Undeceived - November 15, 2012 at 6:53 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 15, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Undeceived - November 15, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Kousbroek - November 15, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Simon Moon - November 15, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Strongbad - November 15, 2012 at 8:46 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 15, 2012 at 7:48 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by mr.atheist - November 16, 2012 at 10:42 am
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Kirbmarc - November 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 8:15 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Angrboda - November 16, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Angrboda - November 16, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2012 at 12:54 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Minimalist - November 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 16, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 16, 2012 at 1:30 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gambit - November 16, 2012 at 1:57 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 16, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by downbeatplumb - November 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Welsh cake - November 16, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2012 at 3:38 pm

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