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Experiencing 'proof'

Darkstar

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RE: Experiencing 'proof'

November 14, 2012 at 10:34 pm (This post was last modified: November 14, 2012 at 10:36 pm by Darkstar.)

(November 14, 2012 at 10:31 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: Thank you Darkstar, I really appreciate that explaination.

We use the term "Erlebnis" to describe things such as dreams, hangovers and other which do not teach a person anything of value.
Whilest "Erfahrung" is purely reserved for expiriences which bring knowlege to the individual.

Seperates the relevant from the irrelevant.

I think that the point of contention is that Drich is trying to argue that a dream of god is Erfahrung, when it is clearly Erlebnis. (You even specifically mentioned dreams as an example of Erlebnis.)
Why does he insist on promoting this embarrassingly bad argument? Min with hilariously blunt answer in 3...2...1...

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Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 14, 2012 at 2:37 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Mister Agenda - November 14, 2012 at 2:42 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 2:46 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 2:46 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by festive1 - November 14, 2012 at 2:48 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Shell B - November 14, 2012 at 2:57 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gambit - November 14, 2012 at 3:02 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2012 at 3:13 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Faith No More - November 14, 2012 at 3:24 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Minimalist - November 14, 2012 at 3:28 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 3:34 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Anomalocaris - November 14, 2012 at 3:42 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 3:37 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cato - November 14, 2012 at 3:38 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Simon Moon - November 14, 2012 at 4:07 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Welsh cake - November 14, 2012 at 6:13 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by CapnAwesome - November 14, 2012 at 6:37 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Angrboda - November 14, 2012 at 7:08 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 14, 2012 at 8:03 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Strongbad - November 14, 2012 at 9:19 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 14, 2012 at 9:29 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gambit - November 14, 2012 at 9:38 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 9:44 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Reasonable_Jeff - November 14, 2012 at 9:54 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 9:59 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 10:01 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cato - November 14, 2012 at 11:01 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Simon Moon - November 15, 2012 at 12:21 am

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 10:05 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2012 at 10:09 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 10:15 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 10:21 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 10:27 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 14, 2012 at 10:31 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 10:34 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Minimalist - November 14, 2012 at 10:43 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 10:46 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Minimalist - November 14, 2012 at 11:33 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 11:20 am

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 12:13 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 12:38 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 15, 2012 at 12:45 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 12:47 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 1:06 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 12:50 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 12:55 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 1:09 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 12:17 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Angrboda - November 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:01 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:06 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 1:23 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 15, 2012 at 3:56 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:21 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 3:04 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Kirbmarc - November 15, 2012 at 1:26 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:28 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 1:35 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Darkstar - November 15, 2012 at 1:46 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gambit - November 15, 2012 at 2:27 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 4:03 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 4:35 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by pocaracas - November 15, 2012 at 5:53 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Welsh cake - November 15, 2012 at 4:54 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 16, 2012 at 12:47 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gilgamesh - November 16, 2012 at 2:24 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 15, 2012 at 5:49 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by mr.atheist - November 15, 2012 at 6:12 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Undeceived - November 15, 2012 at 6:53 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Something completely different - November 15, 2012 at 7:07 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Undeceived - November 15, 2012 at 7:56 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Kousbroek - November 15, 2012 at 8:05 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Simon Moon - November 15, 2012 at 8:23 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Strongbad - November 15, 2012 at 8:46 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 15, 2012 at 7:48 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by mr.atheist - November 16, 2012 at 10:42 am

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 7:28 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Kirbmarc - November 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 15, 2012 at 8:15 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2012 at 11:35 am

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Angrboda - November 16, 2012 at 12:51 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Angrboda - November 16, 2012 at 3:13 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2012 at 12:54 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Minimalist - November 16, 2012 at 1:00 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 16, 2012 at 1:15 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Drich - November 16, 2012 at 1:30 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Gambit - November 16, 2012 at 1:57 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cinjin - November 16, 2012 at 2:43 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by downbeatplumb - November 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Cyberman - November 16, 2012 at 1:32 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2012 at 2:41 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Welsh cake - November 16, 2012 at 3:08 pm

RE: Experiencing 'proof' - by Anomalocaris - November 16, 2012 at 3:38 pm

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