(November 15, 2012 at 12:42 pm)Drich Wrote: Because you can not provide specifics. I can not completely judge another man's efforts works and the condition of his heart without more detail. I have given you the easy answer, but you have dismissed it. (He is not following the path laid out in luke 11 or He falls under what Pauls says in romans 9)
So unless you can provide things that only God and the person making the effort can provide i have no answer for you.
I don't have a specific exampe on hand (maybe someone else here does?), but the point is that even if I did, even if the person followed the path laid out in luke 11, if that person died having not found god you would still have some excuse to say why he didn't, wouldn't you? Can you imagine an instance in which you would admit that the path in luke 11 did not work, even though applied correctly and persistently? I cannot; you would deny that he followed it either by saying that he did it wrong outright, or, if he followed it to the letter, that he missed so hidden condition that was [somehow] implied somewhere in the bible.
