RE: Big Bang Theory
November 15, 2012 at 6:50 pm
(This post was last modified: November 15, 2012 at 7:07 pm by Tnmusicman.)
(November 15, 2012 at 12:50 am)Chuck Wrote: The concept of ghost does not necessarily require it to be supernatural. So it is not necessarily self contradictory to believe in ghost while dismissing the supernatural.
In fact, the idiotic theists who claim the supposed departure of soul from the body at moment of death can de registered scientifically by a reduction in body weight is in fact making the claim that the soul is not supernatural, but infact obey natural laws in specifically quantifiable manner.
If its not supernatural then what is it???
Can't comment on the whole soul issue as I've never heard anybody make such a claim regarding the reduction in body weight.
(November 15, 2012 at 6:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Anyone who said that they didn't believe in the supernatural but believed in ghosts is going to elicit a giggle, sure. Maybe they have some idea of a ghost that is natural (that's probably gonna get a giggle too..from me at least). On the other hand I giggle at anyone who admits to believing in ghosts period. All this being said, atheism, again, has nothing to do with ghosts. How about you, do you laugh at people that believe in ghosts? Or do you just laugh at atheists that believe in ghosts? Do you yourself believe in ghosts?
In any case an atheist is perfectly able to believe in them (or the supernatural) and remain a atheist.
I don't have an opinion on the matter. I don't care enough about it to give it thought.
(November 15, 2012 at 6:50 pm)Chuck Wrote: I laugh at theist morons who resort to:
(November 15, 2012 at 6:40 pm)Tnmusicman Wrote: To most people ... blah blah bla
There is no reason why most people should be right about even concrete, measurable, tangible things about which it is actually possible to be right.
This Tnmusiman imbicile is now applying thefallacy of argumentum ad populum to vacuous figments like ghosts and god which lacks any substance upon which to even apply in any meaningful way the concept of right.
Yeah, well if it bothers you .....yknow , tough !!
(November 15, 2012 at 12:44 am)cato123 Wrote:(November 15, 2012 at 12:19 am)Tnmusicman Wrote: No, but ghosts are supernatural and seems like that's what a crap ton of atheists say they don't believe in - anything supernatural. I have met a few that believe in ghosts . I just laugh a little harder at them.
And you should. You will then get a sense for why we laugh gregariously at prominent christians that proclaim that hurricanes were sent by god to punish those that tolerate homosexuals...
Or those that proclaim earthquakes strike a hundred years later to punish a pact with the devil...
Or sell cheap camping equipment and buckets of dehydrated food to old people as end time's necessities...
Or let the suffering die in squalor instead of getting proper medical treatment because it's god's will...
Or pretend to be a charity when all you're doing is trading a fucking sandwich for a soul...
I could go on, but I hope you get the point.
I don't wonder why you laugh at theists.I disagree about the pretend to be charity issue because there is no way you could claim to be correct about that. There may be some instances that your claim is correct but one instance is not all instances so its rather incorrect to claim so.
It's also incorrect to assume that all Christians adhere to or believe anything you stated as being correct.
Blanket statements!
(November 15, 2012 at 6:50 pm)Chuck Wrote: I laugh at theist morons who resort to:
(November 15, 2012 at 6:40 pm)Tnmusicman Wrote: To most people ... blah blah bla
There is no reason why most people should be right about even concrete, measurable, tangible things about which it is actually possible to be right.
This Tnmusiman imbicile is now applying thefallacy of argumentum ad populum to vacuous figments like ghosts and god which lacks any substance upon which to even apply in any meaningful way the concept of right.
Doesn't change the fact most people believe ghosts are supernatural.