Determinism.....

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Determinism.....

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RE: Determinism.....

October 3, 2009 at 5:16 pm

It just struck me... Tongue

I've agreed with Evie that there is no real free will because we do what we are programmed to do. Our influences/ instincts determine our actions and there's really no possible decision we could possibly make against these influences.

It strikes me now... that 'no free will' actually means the enforcement of a choice potentially against what our influenced choice would have been. (It could be the same but still, not our choice).

Does that sound plausible?

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Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 2, 2009 at 4:23 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 2, 2009 at 5:52 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 7, 2009 at 5:24 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Eilonnwy - October 2, 2009 at 9:57 am

RE: Determinism..... - by theblindferrengi - October 2, 2009 at 9:57 am

RE: Determinism..... - by leo-rcc - October 2, 2009 at 10:50 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 2, 2009 at 10:55 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Eilonnwy - October 2, 2009 at 11:02 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 2, 2009 at 11:20 am

RE: Determinism..... - by leo-rcc - October 2, 2009 at 11:30 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 3, 2009 at 2:29 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 2, 2009 at 11:32 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Godless - October 2, 2009 at 11:40 am

RE: Determinism..... - by binny - October 2, 2009 at 12:04 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by fr0d0 - October 3, 2009 at 5:16 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 3, 2009 at 6:16 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by fr0d0 - October 4, 2009 at 5:06 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 3, 2009 at 7:46 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by amw79 - October 3, 2009 at 7:57 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 4, 2009 at 5:16 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 7, 2009 at 9:40 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - October 7, 2009 at 6:01 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 10, 2009 at 4:16 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by fr0d0 - October 7, 2009 at 6:31 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 7, 2009 at 8:58 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - October 7, 2009 at 9:59 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by fr0d0 - October 8, 2009 at 4:08 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 8, 2009 at 7:23 am

RE: Determinism..... - by fr0d0 - October 8, 2009 at 3:49 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - October 8, 2009 at 1:53 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 8, 2009 at 2:29 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - October 8, 2009 at 5:40 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - October 8, 2009 at 2:56 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Eilonnwy - October 8, 2009 at 2:56 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - October 8, 2009 at 3:03 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Eilonnwy - October 8, 2009 at 3:08 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - October 8, 2009 at 3:25 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by leo-rcc - October 8, 2009 at 3:32 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Rhizomorph13 - October 8, 2009 at 4:01 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 8, 2009 at 4:08 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by ecolox - October 9, 2009 at 10:35 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Rhizomorph13 - October 8, 2009 at 4:23 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Rhizomorph13 - October 8, 2009 at 6:00 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - October 8, 2009 at 6:12 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Rhizomorph13 - October 8, 2009 at 6:27 pm

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RE: Determinism..... - by fr0d0 - October 9, 2009 at 7:13 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Ryft - October 11, 2009 at 3:45 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 12, 2009 at 11:41 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 10, 2009 at 3:35 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by fr0d0 - October 11, 2009 at 7:23 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by theVOID - October 12, 2009 at 12:06 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Ryft - October 13, 2009 at 6:38 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Amphora - October 15, 2009 at 3:22 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2009 at 9:10 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Amphora - October 15, 2009 at 2:29 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2009 at 8:53 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Amphora - October 16, 2009 at 9:25 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 18, 2009 at 2:10 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Amphora - October 18, 2009 at 3:15 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by theVOID - October 19, 2009 at 12:26 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 17, 2009 at 10:28 am

RE: Determinism..... - by theVOID - October 17, 2009 at 10:49 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Ryft - October 18, 2009 at 11:11 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 24, 2009 at 2:41 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - October 19, 2009 at 4:34 am

RE: Determinism..... - by theVOID - October 19, 2009 at 6:24 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 19, 2009 at 5:50 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 26, 2009 at 3:58 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by chatpilot - October 27, 2009 at 12:47 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2009 at 1:45 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by chatpilot - October 27, 2009 at 3:04 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2009 at 5:50 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by chatpilot - October 27, 2009 at 7:03 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 27, 2009 at 10:53 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by chatpilot - October 28, 2009 at 9:08 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2009 at 9:40 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 28, 2009 at 11:57 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2009 at 12:53 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 30, 2009 at 3:08 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2009 at 3:32 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 30, 2009 at 4:49 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 30, 2009 at 5:20 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - October 31, 2009 at 4:55 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2009 at 5:12 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 2, 2009 at 1:35 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by downbeatplumb - November 2, 2009 at 2:11 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - November 2, 2009 at 2:04 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Rhizomorph13 - November 2, 2009 at 2:24 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 11:44 am

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - November 4, 2009 at 2:21 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Rhizomorph13 - November 4, 2009 at 12:28 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 1:22 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 3:52 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Rhizomorph13 - November 4, 2009 at 2:28 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - November 4, 2009 at 2:33 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by rjh4 - November 5, 2009 at 2:22 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 2:36 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Tiberius - November 4, 2009 at 3:25 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - November 4, 2009 at 4:10 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 4, 2009 at 4:27 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - November 5, 2009 at 2:40 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 5, 2009 at 6:42 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by rjh4 - November 5, 2009 at 9:26 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - November 5, 2009 at 6:58 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by theblindferrengi - November 5, 2009 at 9:52 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - November 5, 2009 at 10:09 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by chatpilot - November 6, 2009 at 1:39 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 7, 2009 at 7:21 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Ryft - November 9, 2009 at 6:11 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 10, 2009 at 2:54 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by theblindferrengi - November 9, 2009 at 11:12 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - November 10, 2009 at 3:05 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 10, 2009 at 6:48 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by Violet - November 10, 2009 at 7:01 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by littlegrimlin1 - November 10, 2009 at 10:55 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by theblindferrengi - November 11, 2009 at 8:51 pm

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 12, 2009 at 6:22 am

RE: Determinism..... - by theblindferrengi - November 12, 2009 at 7:40 am

RE: Determinism..... - by solarwave - November 14, 2009 at 12:50 pm

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