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"Offensive Weapons" in the UK
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RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK
I understand, I really do, what I'm trying to address with that statement is the language and connotations of it. Don't you think something might be amiss if you can become a villain, without engaging in any "villainy"? That owning a specific firearm may be a crime where you're from isn't in question, same as owning that firearm here probably wouldn't be a crime. That I would be a criminal by owning such a firearm isn't in question, but in what ways would I be similar to the person who commits a crime with that firearm? Surely there's a dividing line between them and myself? What I'm questioning is whether or not it "should" be a crime..and why. To my mind, owning a rifle and committing a crime with a rifle are two very distinct things. Why should the stigma of one apply to the other?

Like I've mentioned in the thread, I cant see "defending myself" from a home invader as a decent reason to own a firearm. For me it doesn't need to go any further than "Why shouldn't I?....What have I done?...What is it, exactly, that you're expecting me to do?"
(as a semi related aside, I was just asking my wife about this...we live in an open carry state....but we don't actually see too many folks carrying firearms. So the scenario one might have in mind and the reality of the situation might be entirely different, eh?)
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"Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Tiberius - November 21, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jackalope - November 21, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cato - November 21, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 21, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 21, 2012 at 6:15 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Tiberius - November 21, 2012 at 6:32 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by cratehorus - November 22, 2012 at 5:27 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 21, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Tiberius - November 21, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 21, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Tiberius - November 21, 2012 at 7:27 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 21, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 21, 2012 at 9:45 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 21, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jaysyn - November 26, 2012 at 12:11 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by popeyespappy - November 26, 2012 at 1:54 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by jonb - November 26, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jaysyn - November 26, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by festive1 - November 21, 2012 at 9:47 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Waratah - November 21, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by festive1 - November 22, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Waratah - November 22, 2012 at 8:01 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Minimalist - November 21, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 21, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Kirbmarc - November 22, 2012 at 12:36 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 22, 2012 at 1:04 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Darth - November 22, 2012 at 6:05 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by cratehorus - November 22, 2012 at 6:10 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Napoléon - November 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 22, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Welsh cake - November 22, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by downbeatplumb - November 22, 2012 at 2:49 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Minimalist - November 22, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 22, 2012 at 6:38 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Minimalist - November 22, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 22, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 23, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by cratehorus - November 23, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Darth - November 24, 2012 at 2:02 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 24, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by cratehorus - November 30, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 23, 2012 at 6:56 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by jonb - November 23, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Minimalist - November 23, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cato - November 24, 2012 at 1:22 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 24, 2012 at 1:47 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cato - November 24, 2012 at 4:22 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 24, 2012 at 8:57 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 23, 2012 at 10:49 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Shell B - November 24, 2012 at 1:35 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2012 at 1:54 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 24, 2012 at 2:06 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 24, 2012 at 2:13 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by LastPoet - November 24, 2012 at 5:20 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by jonb - November 24, 2012 at 7:31 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2012 at 8:57 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 24, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 24, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 24, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cinjin - November 24, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 24, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cinjin - November 24, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 24, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 24, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 24, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 24, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 4:02 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 25, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 4:53 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 25, 2012 at 6:01 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 25, 2012 at 6:36 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 6:42 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 25, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 7:03 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 25, 2012 at 7:25 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 7:11 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 25, 2012 at 7:23 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 25, 2012 at 7:36 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Chas - November 25, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 25, 2012 at 11:07 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Cyberman - November 25, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by jonb - November 26, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Minimalist - November 26, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Kousbroek - November 26, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Minimalist - November 26, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Whateverist - November 26, 2012 at 9:47 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by popeyespappy - November 28, 2012 at 10:16 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Minimalist - December 1, 2012 at 12:58 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by CapnAwesome - December 15, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2012 at 4:35 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Autumnlicious - November 26, 2012 at 9:38 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jaysyn - December 3, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Napoléon - December 3, 2012 at 3:38 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jaysyn - December 3, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Napoléon - December 3, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jaysyn - December 3, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Kousbroek - December 3, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jaysyn - December 3, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Kousbroek - December 3, 2012 at 4:23 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jaysyn - December 3, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Kousbroek - December 3, 2012 at 4:35 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Napoléon - December 5, 2012 at 8:53 am
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Jaysyn - December 5, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by Kousbroek - December 3, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: "Offensive Weapons" in the UK - by The Grand Nudger - December 15, 2012 at 4:34 pm

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