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More freedom of speech. Thats refreshing.
Talk Rational has freedom of speech too, but people stay on topic here more.

The ignore function makes it harder for someone/anyone to complain about ''having to'' put up with...blah blah blah ---> insert favorite reason for wanting someone banned here<---

Freedom of speech is binary. You either have it or you don't. You can't have more freedom of speech in one place than in another, but identifying this category error in your thinking is tangential to the issues you've had at other sites. You had a fair go at AFA forums and you chose to chuck it by breaking the rules till you got banned...

They dont have free speech at that place.

... even goading the moderators to ban you....

Thats not true. I did NOT want to get banned and have asked many times to be allowed back.

... How does this compare with my treatment at Reasonable Faith Forums...

The same. Your ban from Reasonable Faith was unfair and unjustified and I offered to take the matter up on your behalf IF YOU HAD WANTED ME TO.
Be honest please. Do you remember telling me that you did NOT want me to do that and that you did NOT want to go back there.

...What you think is a good forum and what I think is a good forum are clearly very different....

Strangely enough we keep bumping into each other.

...That you have not yet been banned here for evading questions and passive aggressive sledging suggests either that this forum is a poor match for my needs or that you have changed your posting ways considerably.

Hey, I'm grateful to be here and I certainly havent changed my ''ways''. I hope this forum meets your needs but did the thought ever occur to you that Atheist Mods/Admin vary from one forum to the next?
Doesnt the fact that you are looking for another atheist forum which meets your needs indicate that your false dichotomy - either Lion must have changed or this forum must be no good for letting him stay - is misplaced?

...Free speech allows you to say what you like, but the price of free speech is dealing with the consequences of saying what you like. In my experience you are good at the first part but have trouble with the second part.

WUT? I have no ''trouble'' with it.
I like free speech precisely BECAUSE it DOES produce consequences. The public square needs democratic and fair freedom of speech.
Bans and censorship cause ''trouble'' for those who do the banning and censorship. Lets start a thead about this.

...Ignoring something is a form of failure. Ignoring a problem doesn't deal with it or make it go away. Dealing with it or making it go away deals with it or makes it go away...

Yup. And Protium would be better to have let me stay and allowed people (like you) to use your brilliant counter-apologetics to publically demolish my hopeless theist woo in front of the whole AFA world. Then, you wouldnt need to ban me because, in shame and embarrassment I would have fled the scene of my public humiliation never to return. And the AFA crowd would have been chasing after me saying...dont leave, come back Lion IRC pleeeeese!

... ignoring a problem is the exact opposite of the reason I turn up on social justice forums trying to promote a change in the degree to which religions interfere in my life.

Are you Atheist Plus? They havent banned me *gulp* yet

... Ignore is a coward's solution. Have the gumption to engage with or the guts to distance yourself from the people you disagree vehemently with.

Agreed! Welcome to atheistforums.org