(November 26, 2012 at 6:04 am)worldslaziestbusker Wrote: Again, you speak on the behalf of people who are not you. In writing about Australia being collectively happy to accept your "charity" you draw on no data, but rely on the fact that the needs are being met at the tax payers' expense by organisations that do not have to show their books to anyone. If you don't want to do the charity unless people are grateful and lick your boots, is it really charity? If you would stop doing it if the government funding dried up, is it still charity. I would be happier if the taxes you should rightfully be paying were coughed up and the government paid for the services you provide through the private sector. I have no data (because your books are closed) but I am confident, based on my experience of working with church based charities, that concussed kittens could manage their finances better and run their operations more efficiently. The majority of Australians are Christian, so perhaps you are right that they are happy about it, but as they are split into denominations with mutually exclusive doctrines, are they universally happy about all church based efforts? I'm definitely not happy, so until you have some data on how happy people are and about what, perhaps you should leave the sweeping generalisations alone. As with your claims about your deity and about requests made to your church for help, it's evidence or tough biscuit for your opinions.OK, you have absolutely no clue as to how much the Anglican Church does in Australia without public funding. Sure, some things have public funding, and we have every right to petition for that funding if we can show it is being put to good use.
Why don't you worry about the money that actually gets completely wasted. Like the $90 million dollars that Tim Flannery extorted from the Rudd Government to build the "world's first" geothermic power plant. What did he do with that money?? Link.
Second point, stop assuming that we "only do it" to get something back. What utter nonsense. Why should the government provide all the community services anyway? Do you want to live in a capitalist country or a communist country?
Third point - as with any organization or company, the books are only as good as the treasurer who's in charge of them. The books in our church are completely open, all you have to do to see them is come inside and read the treasury statement which is pinned up for everyone to see. It lists in detail all the expenditures of the church, including salaries and maintenance, etc, and all the revenues of the church. I don't know what other churches are like, but our books are open, so stop claiming we hide everything.
