(November 24, 2012 at 9:51 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Yeah, I agree that it's never been proven through science that there exists a supernatural realm and/or a supernatural being.That's the wrong way round: science has disproven all testable claims regarding the existence of a supernatural realm/being.
Quote:The thing is though that science will never be able to do that because all science does is analyse the "aftermath".Well, science can't detect anything which doesn't interact with our 'universe' and since deistic gods are non-interactive (by definition), there's no difference between them and 'things which don't exist'. Since science has been able to disprove every supernatural claim that is testable, the likelihood is that there are no supernaturalities at all. Therefore i don't see the need to posit a deity on the basis that 'science can't tell me it doesn't exist'.
Quote:Let me give you an example: I punch my mate in the shoulder. Through scientific analysis we could have determined that I did it with x force in Newtons. What the analysis won't be able to tell us is why I did it. Science can only simply describe to you how it happened.Depends on what you mean by 'why': if we're talking about the neurological phenomena, science can tell us quite a lot; if we're talking about the sociological phenomena, science can tell us very little but not 'nothing'. Either way, a basic application of the scientific method (observe, measure, analyse, hypothesise, test, repeat) could be used to work out why you did it. It might not be able to generate a robust theory but it would be useful, none the less.
Quote:Again, I have to admit that maybe, as a human, I'm inclined to see the universe as having that "why" component as well as what science tells us about the "how".Often, the 'how' and the 'why' are the same answer. For example, the laws that describe how gravity works also describe why bodies obey those laws. Sometimes, there comes a time when the question 'why' ceases to make sense and detracts from our knowledge. I know that, as humans, anthropomorphisation often helps understanding/rationalisation of our surroundings & situations but just like the 'why' question, there comes a time when anthropomorphisation ceases to make sense and detracts from our knowledge.
Sum ergo sum


