Avoiding questions

[Drich]

Why wouldn't that be a good thing?

Because the people who hate God and persecute Christians would be mixed in with those who Love God with all of their being.

Who's talking about scenery?

I was. i talked about the emptyness of the void when one first enters Hell and then continued to describe the dephts as one progressed into it.

I'm talking about your bullshit. You didn't feel confident with an interpretation of hell once upon a time (and trust me...I sympathize) but now it's starting to bend that way. Who gives a shit how big it is? What would it's size have to do with how you've altered your description of it in our conversations?

Again the size or compareing it to something tangable like Texas is an illustration that describes a vast number of possiablities as to how one experiences a place that may very well go on forever. Again, if Hell was only the size of texas one could experience all different types or aspects of Hell.

Are we flirting with dantes levels of hell now? At first I just seemed like a guy who would be "separated"...but now you're sure I'll be getting some wrath and rotting in some deeper inner circle?

I don't think their is a physical level or element to the torment. i think the torment of Hell is the abandonment of God and all of Creation. Even the part of creation that allows you to control your mind. their is a very primal part of your psychie that is tapped when you are being consumed. It is akin to the panic and desperation one feels when being burned or is physically on fire. but 10x's over. How long do you think you could hold out being in this state of panic and still retain control of your mind? (I did not make it past the gates.) I believe the levels of hell refer to one's consciecous experience of this place. The longer you hang on to your mind the deeper you go. i believe this to be the final mercy God shows us. Even though we are physically there what made us 'us,' is consumed by the sheer madness of Hell, and we wind up like Nebecanzzar (Given over to maddness/Like a terrified animal.) then there are some residents of Hell that are made to hang on alittle longer before they let go, and some still that i should think are made to experience eternity in Hell. (I believe this to be reserved for Satan)
*not actual scripture, just my personal experience of it.

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Ahh, an open invite to be critical of one of you...

In just about every incarnation of God you bring to the table, it stinks of your own personal theological understanding of God. It would be like if I were friends with a famous person, and you only knew him through TV or worse yet just through the tabloids, and then started asking me to acount for his actions on a tv show or if you were to ask why he dumped this girl and starting going out with a much hotter actress...

If you want to address my friend or my God then get to know him then formulate questions around actual characteristics and not the crap that you 'seen on TV'

When have I brought a god to the table? I don't believe in them, what god would I bring? I criticize the god you bring. I don't know of any god through TV or Tabloids are anything like this.

I "know" it through you. How damning is that amigo?

Meh.. It still akin to reading of a famous person in a tabloid. Especially when you have the oppertunity to ask the celeb your self.

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love it when Drich points out "flaws" in other people's thinking. Though given the volume of Coca-Cola snorted through my nose, if he keeps it up, I'm going to need a good ENT man.

I'm reminded of a Stephen King short story about a woman who commuted to work daily in some small Midwestern city. She kept looking for shortcuts into and out of town in order to reduce her travel time. Eventually, she had found shortcuts that not only shortened her travel time, but ended up traversing through other dimensions and universes. At the end of a commute, she would be pulling things off the grill of her car which no man has heretofore seen, or is likely to again anytime soon.

For many religious people, it is simply a matter of the pathways in their brain not going through the usual or expected routes, and like some absurd Fedex package system, it can only route a package two towns away by first going through the central hub in some far off location. There are many destinations where the theist's express bus simply does not stop, and whole sections of towns with permanent detours. Much of Christian apologetics is like some insane urban bypass project designed by an engineer beholden to Lovecraftian gods. In a word, in the mind of the theist, for many questions, the answer is simply that you cannot get there from here. I'm perfectly comfortable with this fact, as amusing and infuriating as it is at times to try to deal with these strange orbits. This is the way we humans are built. It's a part of nature just as tooth and claw is. And while I might fight for better maps and more productive routes, I don't blame the driver or pedestrian for the condition of the road. It sounds like I'm working up to something, don't it? Psych!

You got me. i read the whole thing, and trying to figure out what you were trying to say and nothing.

Next time I will read you last few lines first.

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Nice non-answer, bro.

another example of a general misconception, this time about the bible. I answered what i was asked and nothing more, it is up to you guys to follow up if you want to know more.