RE: Avoiding questions
November 29, 2012 at 12:54 am
(This post was last modified: November 29, 2012 at 1:01 am by Drich.)
(November 29, 2012 at 12:16 am)Darkstar Wrote: The biblical version...temporary slavery? If the slaves were treated humanely, then why are there passages like this oneI did not say they were treated Humanely. i said I approved of biblical slavery. As It is an example of how 'we' are to approach God. To get the most out of our relationship with God we are to Humble ourselves before him, and allow Him to Lift us Up. the word Humble here is the same type of Humility a slave has before his master. We would not know this humility if not for the biblical example. therefore the biblical example must be perserved so 'we' know how to approach God. i approve this example because we must learn to live this example as followers of Christ.
Quote:Is this about the recencey of the command or the ethics? If god had given that command to a group that included you personally, would you kill for him in this manner?If I were in those circumstances as an OT Jew, Absolutly. "Ours is not to reason why, Ours is but to do and die."
Quote:Rotten apples to rotten oranges. If Hinduism had claimed to put people in a personal relationship with god, I can bet that you wouldn't even give it the little validity you have.EVERY Single religion who puts it's god in direct contact with people or has a god provide for a people in exchange for offerings has failed. Why? Because people eventually see through the emptiness. Hinduism is different, it again does not offer direct contact with its gods it offers a sense of spirituality which can be obtained with or without its gods help. If Hinduism offered up it's gods to the general population (even the to the lower classes) it would fail even faster than any religion before it just by the sheer volume of people who would be constantly testing those gods.
Christianity is no different. Many of you have tested your version of christianity and it failed. But rather than admit that you picked the wrong one or the one with little to no God in it, you assume their is no God. What about those who seek out God and 'pick the right one?' We are the ones who keep this religion going. Why? Because we have Seen, Felt, Heard, Experienced all that we have been promised and Nothing this world can offer or threaten us with will EVER take that away.
Christianity is still around because God still honors those in christianity who A/S/K for Him.
Quote:First, why should we have to atone for rules that we can't possibly not break?what do you mean?
Quote:Why does Jesus have to suffer when god can just forgive us outright?Why do you believe God can forgive you outright?
Quote: Also, if none of his rules are used anymore (despite Jesus saying that he did not come to abolish the laws) then does that mean they are flawed in some way, either literally or by the way they were applied?Not comming to abolish the Law means it all still applies EVEN THE RUES REGAURDING ATTONEMENT You are like the 5th person to bring this up and yet not understand THE WHOLE LAW part. The WHOLE LAW Includes Attonement! It is through attonement that we are Free from the Law! This is why God can not forgive you out Right (Because Christ did not come to abolish the Law!!)
(November 29, 2012 at 12:36 am)Darkstar Wrote:(November 29, 2012 at 12:21 am)Drich Wrote: another example of a general misconception, this time about the bible. I answered what i was asked and nothing more, it is up to you guys to follow up if you want to know more.
Or you could have given a clear answer form the get go.
A clear answer requires a lesson on how the bibles are translated. I have found the people like this have a set arguement to offer and when I say something like this (Not according to this set arguement) they bail. so I was giving the Op'er the oppertunity to bail before I changed the direction of his attack.
That said The holy bible is a complete answer in of itself. In that not all translations are nor can be considered 'holy Bibles." Some of them are commentary bibles or bibles written to a specific group of sect of christianity. Meaning the are not literal translations of the recognized texts the Holy bibles are translated from. Some translations may add books while others take them away or change them. These bibles are not considered "Holy Bibles"