RE: Nothing supernatural about the western suburbs of Melbourne
December 1, 2012 at 4:23 am
(November 28, 2012 at 10:55 am)worldslaziestbusker Wrote: No, taxpayers have that right. Churches don't pay tax, so that right should not extend to them.
I pay taxes, I have the right to petition the government for a grant.
Quote:What's more, it's not just the grants your church shouldn't be eligible to apply for that is at stake. Your church does not pay tax on its businesses, doesn't pay stamp duty on its vehicles and got its (very profitable) land free. The shortfall that religious turnover should be contributing to the tax pool has to be made up out of the pockets of all tax paying Australians.
We don't get land free. The land you're talking about is usually zoned for specific use and then sold cheaply. It isn't worth anything at all unless it can be rezoned.
Quote:Don't use the genetic fallacy again. The government made the same mistake in trusting you to provide services that parents make in leaving their children in the care of clergy unchaperoned.
What is that arrangement of gibberish supposed to mean?
Quote:Neither of the above points you made justifies your involvement in state funded schools, using my taxes for your agendas or interfering in legislation. All of these things happen, though, so I am justifiably upset.
Schools ask us to run programs. More often then not it is they who ask the churches, not the churches who ask the schools.
Quote:The only thing that would show that you are right to do these things is evidence beyond reasonable doubt that your deity exists and is the only deity. I set the bar at beyond reasonable doubt because if you expect to use your doctrine to influence legislation, you should use the same standard of evidence as the courts that will see that that legislation is acted on.
Right, because we actually have a working justice system in Australia??? Hahahaha, don't make me laugh. We don't get to make legislation BTW, and personally I don't like the ACL all too much at all. I don't much like Jim Wallace, and I've met him a few times. You might remember that Wallace said that the homosexual lifestyle is more hazardous to your health than smoking recently. While there is certainly some truth to the statement, it doesn't change the fact that homosexuality itself isn't a major health issue in society like he imagined. Personally, I think he's an idiot for saying that.
Quote:Yes, it tells me that past governments got a lot of stuff wrong and that the current government is too inept to do much about it.
Yeah get off my lawn too while you're at it!