RE: Litmus test
December 2, 2012 at 7:12 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2012 at 8:09 am by worldslaziestbusker.)
(December 1, 2012 at 9:52 pm)HorribleOffensiveScouser91 Wrote: Also to ban abuse would single handedly destroy the economy, think of all those fans of S&M porn....abuse, a matter of preference
I am not proposing a ban on abuse. I can't afford to tell people how to act to that extent because to do so would negate my right to behave as I see fit.
You can be as racist, sexist and assholish as you like and there's nothing I can or would do to stop you. The only thing I have any control over in the situation is my reaction to your racism, sexism and asshole shenanigans. My reaction to such assholery is generally disdain and a failure to join initiatives kicked off by the asshole in question and a failure to invite them to join projects I am starting or engaged in.
By encouraging people to think about what constitutes abuse, I am hoping they will think harder about their actions before doing or saying something that will make them a big hypocrite when calling for an end to religiously inspired abuse. This would not make their case against religious abuse invalid, but it will make it harder to get an audience to take their ethics seriously. You don't get to claim a right you don't extend to others. That would be having your cake and having my cake and everyone else's cake too, and that's the sort of hypocrisy I like to leave to the theists.
I'll have the cake, please.
(December 2, 2012 at 12:44 am)Lion IRC Wrote:(December 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm)worldslaziestbusker Wrote: ...I can defend calling LionIRC a coward because I have evidence of his cowardice....
Nice.
Attack me from the comfort of a thread which says...
(December 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm)worldslaziestbusker Wrote: ...Theists can fuck off and leave me alone.
Is that your new M.O.?
...leave me alone so I can whine about you from behind a bullet-proof screen
Call me a coward? Hypocrite!
There's nothing about you I fear.
So you're gonna sit and make gratuitous snipes at me and....
WAIT!
Now I get it.
...if someone intends their comments to cause harm for which the recipient can receive no benefit, that comment is unnecessary.
Yep. Unnecessary. You flunked your own litmus test PAL!
This thread clearly isn't cowardly lion proof, so I wouldn't trust it to stop bullets. I know you have Catholicism written through you like a stick of rock and that that probably makes dominionism come naturally to you, but did you really have to butt into a thread explicitly seeking atheist perspectives on abuse? No. You did not have to, but you did so anyway because you are a dominionist to the core.
I don't whine about you, Lion. You whine about being banned and badly wanting to get back into forums where you broke the rules you agreed to when you signed up. I hold you in considerable disdain, but that's not whining.
Would anyone like to see some high grade whining, coupled to some attempts at arm twisting, all drizzled over a big fail cake of cowardice?
Here's LionIRC being offered exactly the opportunity he claims to crave, an opportunity to make his case against an atheist, live and at my expense, and failing to take that offer up. Coward fail.
My user name at RFF was changed to Matthew McArthur after my posting privileges were taken away and without notice. Bravo, RFF, you are all class. Wait, what's that cl doing there?
(December 2, 2012 at 1:01 am)Daniel Wrote:(December 1, 2012 at 7:23 pm)worldslaziestbusker Wrote: I see abuse as being binary, in that if someone intends their actions or comments to cause harm for which the recipient can receive no benefit, that action or comment is unnecessary.1. Read this.
2. When can I expect George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Barak Obama, Leon Panetta and dozens of other CIA and Guantanamo Bay staff and let's not forget Politicians to be arrested, put on trial for torture, convicted, and incarcerated?
3. Does the wording in the treaty allow for any other course of action? (No)
You do love your non sequuntur, don't you, Daniel?
Your post, besides being made against my explicit and strongly worded request that theists not post in this thread, has nothing to do with the issue at hand - whether or not abuse is binary.
Please, Daniel and LionIRC, and any other theist who happens to be passing by, do not post in this thread. Your actions are not in question. I am seeking to assess the ethical mien of the forum atheists. You can add no useful information to that assessment. If you have been hard done by by the local atheists, go make noise about it in the thread specific to that incident so you have the evidence to hand to back any claim you might try to make.
I know you aren't good at spotting the boundary between your business and the rest of the world's business, but you have been asked to butt out, failed, and been reminded to butt out. Fail again and I'll test the mien of the moderation on this forum by requesting that you receive official censure for being presumptuous beyond reason.