Litmus test

[Aractus]

The US did not sign the treaty.

We should have but then BULLSHIT is our motto.

Wikipedia says they did... then again getting facts from Wikipedia is pretty fucking stupid of me.

UN website reveals they USA has signed and ratified the agreement under Article 21. In other words, not Article 22, but that doesn't exempt the State (or anyone else) from the law - all the people I mentioned are criminals and need to be arrested, put on trial, and incarcerated for their crimes.

So in other words, they don't want their citizens to torture arabs in their basements, but it's fine if they do it in their basement.

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You do love your non sequuntur, don't you, Daniel?
Your post, besides being made against my explicit and strongly worded request that theists not post in this thread, has nothing to do with the issue at hand - whether or not abuse is binary.

Um yes it does. Did you read the link? Specifically Article 2:

1. Each State Party shall take effective legislative, administrative, judicial or other measures to prevent acts of torture in any territory under its jurisdiction.
   
2. No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat or war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.
   
3. An order from a superior officer or a public authority may not be invoked as a justification of torture.

Doesn’t that specifically see torture as binary - black and white - no room for compromise.

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Please, Daniel and LionIRC, and any other theist who happens to be passing by, do not post in this thread. Your actions are not in question. I am seeking to assess the ethical mien of the forum atheists. You can add no useful information to that assessment. If you have been hard done by by the local atheists, go make noise about it in the thread specific to that incident so you have the evidence to hand to back any claim you might try to make.
I know you aren't good at spotting the boundary between your business and the rest of the world's business, but you have been asked to butt out, failed, and been reminded to butt out. Fail again and I'll test the mien of the moderation on this forum by requesting that you receive official censure for being presumptuous beyond reason.[/list]

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Yeah so you want to discriminate against us, and then kick up a fuss when we shun your effort at discrimination? Wake up to yourself buddy, this is a PUBLIC forum, not a PRIVATE forum. Understand the difference?

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