RE: How Christians and there god sound to me.
December 3, 2012 at 1:50 am
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2012 at 1:59 am by catfish.)
(December 3, 2012 at 1:00 am)Darkstar Wrote:(December 3, 2012 at 12:55 am)catfish Wrote: So, does this mean we can get back to Gooders point #3 and my critique of why it shouldn't be believed according to what is actually written?
Sure. Let's see...it was:Gooders1002 Wrote:3. He only allows those who follow him without question to experience bliss and there rest get eternal punishment.Though we should note:Gooders1002 Wrote:This is my view of what Christians believe about their god, them and their bookEven if it isn't true (I can't say 100% one way or the other) if most Christians believe it, he is technically right...although we could debate what they should believe (according to what is written).
He has stated they were his own opinions, which is how I started this conversation. "Technically", he WAS right unless he was lying about his opinion. You can read back if you don't believe me... But we have moved past that and he has clarified what he wanted.
So, if you agree that I'm a Christian and I say that I disagree with point #3, how do we determine if my logic is valid? I say to check it for yourself, I'll even give you points to research. What will you actually do though? Is this where you tell me how it isn't worth your time, or do you take the 10 minutes to verify or disprove my claims?
As demonstrated with the trinity example, simply being a Christian isn't enough. And like I asked earlier, do we use the Bible as our standard?
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(December 3, 2012 at 1:17 am)cato123 Wrote:(December 2, 2012 at 12:39 am)catfish Wrote: Your main flaw is bolded by me above. You need to reconcile the two statements without looking like a fool. The proper course is to admit the mistake and try again...
And I have acknowledged that "some" Christians believe things I do not. I find it amusing that an atheist acts likes he believes that pagan bullshit too.
Remind you of someone Catfish? How do you proclaim that Jesus didn't die for everyone's sins, get shown in your own book where you are wrong, and then proceed to deflect and ignore the simple logic?
I know how....you run all over AF accusing others of your own limitations. The proper course is to admit the mistake and try again! Hmmm, where have I heard this before?
Who exactly is looking foolish?
I guess you are. Have I not made it clear that I do NOT have to believe the Bible is 100% true? Do you not know what my signature means? If you can find one verse that is clear that the Bible is 100% true, I'll consider it. Just remember for that one that you show me, I'll show you 5 that will contradict that.
Show me where Yeshua taught whatever pagan shit you want to claim as Christian, OK?
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