(December 4, 2012 at 11:23 am)Drich Wrote:Just because you answered my question does not mean you are not avoiding. After your first answer you changed it to the holy bible. I correctly pointed out to you that one does not mean bible in the context you used.(December 3, 2012 at 10:46 pm)Waratah Wrote: You're correct I did not ask that exact question first. I did not ask you what bibles you owned either but hey that is the response given(finally started to answer some questions like a normal human being, fucking amazing ). The Original question I asked was avoided anyway with a bullshit answer.
Actually no, Again a Holy One refers to a direct translation not a contextual translation. Giving you this answer helped me gauge your biblical/Translation knoweledge.
Quote:Just FYI because you still do not know the difference between a Holy Bible and a contextually translated version even after it has been explained hows me you are still trying to approach this discussion with the arguement you had in mind when you first asked your question. Why else ignore all of the information I have given you to this point?What is this argument that you think I have? You said before you wanted to change my plan of attack. Please enlighten us all of what this "attack" was and/or "the argument"?
Quote:Is it just so you can claim that I have given you a bullshit answer thus differing the fact that you simply did not understand the answer given?? Or do you still after all of this do not understand a bible can not be technically be called 'Holy' unless it is a direct translation? Thus requiring me to tell you when asked what bible I use, "A Holy One." (Because again, Direct translations are what I personally use.)You can try to twist it as much as you want but you were being a smart ass because in your eyes I had a pacific plan("attack","the argument").
Quote:Can you see now?Always have been able to see.
Quote: The answer I gave was direct, forth comming and on topic. You simply did not have enough information to properly process the answer given, and rather than ask questions you assumed that your understanding of christianity was complete enough to assume that I dismissed your question.In a post after your bullshit answer you said this
"I have found the people like this have a set arguement to offer and when I say something like this (Not according to this set arguement) they bail. so I was giving the Op'er the oppertunity to bail before I changed the direction of his attack."
I could be wrong but to me it is clear that it was not direct or forthcoming.
Quote:All of this is the underlining point of this thread. There are no crap answers, just crap theology that you all bring to these conversations, that will not allow you to process that answer given.My bold
No wonder you are so far up yourself. Hey everyone Mr Perfect is here . With this mindset, you are fucked.
Quote:We are getting there. If you could only have one holy bible(and no blue letter bible) which one would you pick and why? Please be careful in your response.Quote:If you could only have one holy bible which one would you pick and why?Blue letter. I gives the KJV along side the Hebrew and Greek.
Quote:Could you please show me a link to buy the blue letter bible. Please do not just point to their website, as I have searched and could not find. So if it is there I need a direct link.Quote:Can you buy a hard copy of the Blue letter Bible?Yes, it is a series of books.
Quote:So you don't use any of the english translations, so which greek one do you use for minnie?Quote:Can you please explain what you mean by this "I have to give the greek." I took it as meaning a greek translation. This is why I asked for which version which you have not given.I orginaly told you I gave minnie scripture from the blue letter because he needs to see the greek, as he does not like any known english transaltion.
Quote:Quote:Please show me where בהו bohuw means "with out life". As far as I am aware it means empty, void, nothing.That one line does not show me בהו bohuw means "with out life". Crap answer.You are avoiding the question? At the moment בהו bohuw still just means empty, void, nothing.
Quote:Please don't align yourself with other christians, what did they do to you to have this horror put on them. Please use I, that way you are not assuming.Quote:Who's "we"?Christianity.Quote:My mistake in the question, I said "can". I had a teacher who would always reply Yes I can when someone asked a can question. It would be greatly appreciated if you could now substantiate this claim for us,Quote:Can you substantiate this claim "we know it to mean God created All of the Heavens and a Completed Earth (Rocks Minierals and Water minus dry land and life) as per verse 3 and 4.Yes and so can you. Just ask any Christian
"we know it to mean God created All of the Heavens and a Completed Earth (Rocks Minierals and Water minus dry land and life) as per verse 3 and 4.
Don't forget my original question
Question: How was it possible for darkness to cover the ocean when the ocean was not there?Quote:I am just following the story of the holy bible and its mistakes. First line says creation of earth, second line clarifies the earth is empty.You have made claims without substantiation.Quote:[What is Gen 2 and Gen 3?Verse 2 Verse 3 of the book of Genesis.
Quote:Answer what? I have not avoided your questions, you have avoided myn.Then tell me how you are so sure that the earth was devoid of water. We have established your incorrect understanding of the Hebrew, and how it is used. so what other evidence do you have to prove that their was no water after God created the Earth, and before He created Life.
Can we use the same english version of the holy bible, so there is no discrepancy. So could you please copy and paste Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 from your named source, whatever english version you want.
Also don't forget these questions
The very first 2 lines of the bible and there are errors. How is it that your supposed god stuffed up the first 2 lines? If god is perfect, why are the first 2 lines wrong?