RE: Can the forum's christians see the demons in other people?
December 5, 2012 at 7:54 pm
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2012 at 8:10 pm by John V.)
(December 5, 2012 at 7:51 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Thats a pretty good idea, you ought to write that in the bible..It's already there:
Romans 8
29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son...
(December 5, 2012 at 6:47 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Life? I mean that either he knows someone is good, but sends them to hell for not accepting Jesus, or every person who doesn't accept Jesus is already evil.Yes, that's total depravity, a common though not universally accepted doctrine.
Quote:I probably should have used "symbolic" to begin with. It's still unusual, though. Couldn't he just have said flat out that he deemed women inferior?That's not the symbolism he was going for.
Quote:A pretty sick deal to let your arch-enemy take over the world and force everyone to worship him under threat of death. Speaking of 'deal', what could god possibly get out of it? He's omnipotent!He doesn't force everyone. You noted yourself that it says deceived, and there are faithful with Jesus.
Quote:Well, there is Exodus 22:20 “Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the Lord must be destroyed", but that could technically be overridden if we say that no sacrifices are required. Let's look at it this way, the first commandment is to not have any gods before Yahweh...As creator he's worthy of that position. Satan didn't create us or the world. We owe him nothing. It's not at all a good analogy.
Quote:God made a deal with the devil...?It seems that way. Remember, you consider fairness, but only from the human side. What if Satan said "If you don't hold me back, I can do X, Y and Z." Now, God being omniscient might no that Satan can't do those things, butfrom a sense of fairness to Satan and/or other angels, might decide to give him a shot.
