(December 7, 2012 at 3:04 am)Rhythm Wrote:(December 6, 2012 at 11:23 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: To an extent, I actually do think it's all meaningless chaos, but things were set in place to allow for life to happen. Even life itself is chaotic. This is evident if one understands evolution properly.What things, were they "set"? When were they set? How where they set? Who set them? In short, evidence?
The conditions for all of the "laws" of the universe to turn out the way they did.
Quote:Quote:By all means, let it out! I'm not a child. I can handle grown-up thoughtsSee above. You may not like to think of it as intelligent design, but the minute you start to claim that things were "set into place to allow for......." that's where you've pointed the boat. In your case it's a designed "something". My ID comment was directed more at DP though, who referenced facets of human biology and saw intent. Sadly reading your comments about drugs is pretty damning, you're an ID'er amigo.......You seem to feel that an intelligence designed us for certain somethings and not for others -drugs in this case-....what would you call that? Let me ask you a question, considering that many substances can be dissolved in a solvent (harming, altering, or otherwise "destroying" those substances), does that mean that the creator of the cosmos is telling us that those things weren't meant to be treated that way?
I don't really think I would call it Intelligent Design what I tend to believe. I'm pretty sure Intelligent Design is more on the theistic side of things anyways, which is rather yucky.
Oh, woops. I read "@OP" i.e. original post. Well, I'll respond to this anyways.
I should have clarified more thoroughly what I meant by the drugs thing. So, in this day and age, it so happens that our bodies can't deal with certain substances i.e. drugs. I'm not saying that the Creator pre-defined everything so that 13.7 billion years into the universe we would be sitting here unable to consume drugs. Quite clearly, evolution is random and it could very well have turned out that we couldn't consume e.g. corn or something. Never was any of this planned out though. All I'm saying is that science can be used to understand what works and what doesn't in our current evolutionary state.
Answering your question: by all means, manipulate the world around you. Go one further and "dissolve" your teeth with cigarette smoke and alter your lung cells into harmful cells if you really want to. What I'm saying is that if there is a Creator, then it's logical to me that we can observe and experiment with the stuff it left behind to ultimately understand how to live better.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle