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Assange: Refugee or Fugitive?
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RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive?
TGAC -- You're wrong with respect to Sweden being bound to the vaunted ideal of European justice.

If not, then please explain the following:
Quote:This haste circumvented all procedural rules and deprived the detainees and their lawyers of all opportunity to question the reasons, to verify the correctness of the information underlying the decisions, or to supply corrections or additional information. The men and their lawyers were never allowed to learn about the accusations against them on which the security services based their recommendation. For example, it appears that the government believed they had obtained a letter from the Egyptian authorities with clear promises of respecting the human rights of the men. When the letter was later disclosed, it turned out to promise only that they would be treated in accordance with Egypt's constitution and law. When Sweden later tried to do some follow-up on the issue, the agreement in the letter proved woefully inadequate. This could have been discovered before the deportation, quite independent of the different views of the actual danger the men posed to Sweden, and would almost certainly have been discovered had due process rules been observed.

This handling was later condemned and found illegal by the Swedish Parliamentary Ombudsman. The United Nation's Human Rights Committee found the deportation of Alzery a breach of Sweden's obligations under the international treaties that Sweden has entered into. The primary ground was the obvious and well known risk of torture to which Alzery was exposed. The immediate execution of the deportation decision was also found to breach Sweden's obligation to ensure the deportation could be reviewed by the Human Rights Committee, especially since Alzery's lawyer had previously announced his determination to appeal any negative decision to the Committee. In Agiza's case, the UN Committee on Torture reached similar conclusions.
REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repatriatio...ad_al-Zery

In short, they violated their own great "laws" regarding the treatment of prisoners and extradition.

They could have waited several days as the law requires to attain the necessary information, but they did not.

I wouldn't trust Sweden to handle a high profile sexual offense when they cannot handle low-mid profile extradition requests properly in accordance with their own laws.


(December 9, 2012 at 9:42 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: It doesn`t matter if you care or not. Law is law.

I was only following orders, eh TGAC?

You're right -- any unjust law, by virtue of being a law, must be followed to the letter.

By that token, I declare myself an offender under UN and US conventions regarding the use of prohibited substances.

That must mean I deserve losing life, home and reputation! Isn't "the law is the law" so grand?! /s


(December 9, 2012 at 9:42 am)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: The entire point is, he has nothing to fear because sweden does not extradite to the US.

And again: show me an example where sweden is the US`s bitch?

I did, Daniel did, Stue Denim did.

The ball is in your court, so to speak.
Slave to the Patriarchy no more
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Messages In This Thread
Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Minimalist - December 9, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 3:07 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Waratah - December 9, 2012 at 6:29 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 3:50 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 5:00 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by 5thHorseman - December 9, 2012 at 6:51 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 9, 2012 at 5:36 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Tiberius - December 9, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Tiberius - December 9, 2012 at 10:10 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by 5thHorseman - December 9, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 10, 2012 at 4:10 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Darth - December 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 9, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Waratah - December 9, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 10, 2012 at 1:19 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Darth - December 10, 2012 at 7:05 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Darth - December 10, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 10, 2012 at 8:14 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 10, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 11, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by 5thHorseman - December 10, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 10, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 11, 2012 at 3:58 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 11, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm



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