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Assange: Refugee or Fugitive?
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RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive?
(December 11, 2012 at 3:58 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: I wonder if reading the surrounding context no less than a few posts away would have given you that idea...

Ever heard of the term:"Abstraktionsgrad der juristischen Sprache"

Grade of abstraktation within legal language. This term discribes the lingual complexity of words within law and the grade of complexety which makes them hard to understand.

English is not the language in which I debate legal subjects, and I hardly debate legal subjects in german to.
So an acronym of an english legal term is anything but "obvious" to me!

Funny how you think that it is funny that I need a clarification of what these terms mean.

Let me post some acronyms of german legal terms and see how you manage to put the correct definition to them.



Quote:
Article 1, 1 Wrote:1. The European arrest warrant is a judicial decision issued by a Member State with a view to the arrest and surrender by another Member State of a requested person, for the purposes of conducting a criminal prosecution or executing a custodial sentence or detention order.
REF: http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexU...584:EN:NOT

ok.




Quote:On 18 November 2010 the Stockholm District Court upheld an arrest warrant against Assange.

It therefor is irrelevant if he has not been charged and is simply wanted for questioning.

There is an arrest warrant, issued by the swedish prosecution. Arrest warrants can be issued while the investigation is ongoing and charges have not jet been set.

Assange is not simply wanted for questioning - he is wanted for arrest.

(December 10, 2012 at 1:19 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: However, Swedish authorities claim:

Furthermore, "Swedish law allows interviews to be conducted abroad under Mutual Legal Assistance provisions", however:


Like mentioned before, sweden does not simply want him for "questioning"

There is an arrest warrant issued against him.

Therefor this does not simply require an interview - it requires an arrest.

When Ecuador offers the interview to be conducted within the embessys ground - it is ignoring the arrest warrant and simply using the phrases within the swedish code of law it sees as fitting.

Ecuador does not define swedish law, neighter does it have the right to execute swedish law or to act on it`s behalf - without the concent of the swedish goverment or by simply ignoring the rulings of the swedish court


Quote:Interesting use of "long time". It allows you the slippery-ness of claiming that a set of rights violations are such a small number while at the same time conveying the false concept of longevity for the so-called European high-court, which is remarkably young.

The european high court is an institution which existsts since 1952.

The cases of CIA abductions which took place in the wake of 9\11 of which the high court was sometimes not aware of, and which sometimes were ignored - are unfortunate.

But do not make it a inlegitemate institution.



Quote:I outlined the discontinuity between the actual legislation allowing for European Arrest Warrants and the intricacies of Swedish Law. It's fairly obvious the protocol here -- formally charge the man for the purposes of conducting a criminal trial. It has been stated that questioning can take place under mutual legal assistance (MLA) laws.

That would perfectly fit the terms of an EAW.

It's questionable that the basic tenants of the legislation being utilized is not being filled out to the letter in one of the world's most high profile cases.




It states: "for the purpose of criminal persecution".
Which does not mean that charges already have to be set for the persecution to demand an arrest warrant or\and extradition.

Quote:I find it interesting that you wish to ignore that/

I didn`t ignore anything, I wasn`t well informed and had to look into the details and was at first to lazy to do so.

sources:

http://klamberg.blogspot.co.at/2012/08/e...weden.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assange_v_S..._Authority

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexU...84:en:HTML

http://www.government.se/content/1/c6/01...809ec6.pdf

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/david-...xtradition
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Messages In This Thread
Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Minimalist - December 9, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 3:07 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Waratah - December 9, 2012 at 6:29 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 3:50 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 5:00 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by 5thHorseman - December 9, 2012 at 6:51 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 9, 2012 at 5:36 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Tiberius - December 9, 2012 at 9:55 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Tiberius - December 9, 2012 at 10:10 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by 5thHorseman - December 9, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 10, 2012 at 4:10 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 9, 2012 at 10:29 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Darth - December 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 9, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Waratah - December 9, 2012 at 7:39 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 10, 2012 at 1:19 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Darth - December 10, 2012 at 7:05 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Darth - December 10, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 10, 2012 at 8:14 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 10, 2012 at 10:02 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Aractus - December 11, 2012 at 2:58 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by 5thHorseman - December 10, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 10, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 11, 2012 at 3:58 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Something completely different - December 11, 2012 at 5:54 am
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 11, 2012 at 3:53 pm
RE: Assange: Refugee or Fugitive? - by Autumnlicious - December 11, 2012 at 6:49 pm



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