Which Comes First?

[Edwardo Piet]

Thankyou. You said you would never believe and now you retract that.

When did I ever say that I would never believe in God? As in definitely never?

You have blind faith that I have committed the NTS fallacy despite it being pointed out to you how it doesn't without successful rebuttal from yourself. Fair enough.

It's not blind faith if my observations of you are correct.

We haven't finished discussing prayer and you jump in with a closing statement before waiting for the answer to that.

Closing statement? What closing statement? This is all open discussion.

You're talking about evidence with me which isn't permitted in open forum.

I'm talking about evidence, but I'm not getting into the whole Evidence Versus Faith thing here. If you want to discuss Evidence and Faith in the debate forum, where we really should be: Then please to reply to the latest post there that I did back on the 20th of September.

The evidence in question is Eilonnwy's to support her understanding of prayer against the biblical understanding which she is apparently criticising.

Biblical 'Understanding', what kind of understanding? How can one understand prayer if it's not been substantiated that it works at all? And that being the case, considering that the Bible claims that it works: The Burden of proof is on those who believe that the Biblical understanding is the correct one.

So your tirade against unsupported evidence can't be against me as my evidence is supported. Eilonnwy's on the other hand is yet unsupported.

If your evidence is of the Biblical understanding, then how is it supported? Since when did the Biblical understanding ever substantiate its Godly claims?

You need to get back into your cage to discuss this with me Evie.

I've been waiting for a response their since the 20th of September. You claim that I said to stop the discussion, I deny that I ever said such a thing. I never terminate any discussions. If you can find a quote where I really said that, then I apologize.

If you can find a quote where you think I somehow implied it. I assure you, there was no such implication intended. I don't drop discussions.

EvF